From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [IPv6:2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E418C1F910 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 05:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: dcvr.yhbt.net; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.b="tEI5okUu"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2954C385AC29 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 05:00:01 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 2954C385AC29 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1668229201; bh=Zwsjcju2Oc9OEWcSkkMf7dN4/p6hJ6qDyA1qd4UCTd4=; h=Subject:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=tEI5okUu/7ke6QgrvlCUNWmDcR/puyAMueu9goWwspwhf8nwGz45yxpdhWZVp/idY gJcTBfW5UwJND+LigqDmtsJKFSbA7cEKV01fozLgkONW21xtZrOqLwc582WsvBKtQL yCPg8K4RAWTBMuBNTueyEljBOCokz2nE0Tiunjy8= Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85E73858004 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:59:39 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org D85E73858004 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_37214F1E-A0DF-4DEB-86BB-E98B0BC013CF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.200.110.1.12\)) Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support In-Reply-To: <20221112045614.GP19515@mail.wookware.org> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:59:23 +0000 Cc: Florian Weimer , Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha , Autoconf Development , c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev, Zack Weinberg , David Seifert , Gentoo Toolchain , =?utf-8?Q?Arsen_Arsenovi=C4=87?= , Paul Eggert , Frederic Berat , Arnd Bergmann , Helmut Grohne Message-Id: <794AB6BD-D77E-44F9-B699-99200DD2E987@gentoo.org> References: <87wn81q254.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20221112042052.GL27919@mail.wookware.org> <6CB9AA26-B9E2-46F3-99FA-A0C038963495@gentoo.org> <20221112045614.GP19515@mail.wookware.org> To: Wookey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.200.110.1.12) X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Sam James via Libc-alpha Reply-To: Sam James Errors-To: libc-alpha-bounces+e=80x24.org@sourceware.org Sender: "Libc-alpha" --Apple-Mail=_37214F1E-A0DF-4DEB-86BB-E98B0BC013CF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 12 Nov 2022, at 04:56, Wookey wrote: >=20 > On 2022-11-12 04:28 +0000, Sam James wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 12 Nov 2022, at 04:20, Wookey wrote: >>>=20 >>> Distros need to co-ordinate on this. If there are going to be new >>> triplets for the 'LFS and 64_bit timet' ABI(s) then we should agree = on >>> them and use them. If distros are happy to migrate to these ABIs >>> within the existing arm-linux-gnueabihf and i386-linux-gnu (or >>> i686-linux-gnu) then we should do that. >>>=20 >>> If half the distros migrate within the existing triplet and the rest = use >>> a new one, that sounds like a recipie for much confusion. >>>=20 >>=20 >> 100%. And also on sharing patches and known problems >> and experience with the migration. All of it! >=20 > OK. It seems that the time is right to have this conversation. So we = should agree on a place to do it. >=20 > We have used the linaro cross-distro list in the past as it is > intended for this sort of cross-cutting discussions. I can't think of > a better place? > https://lists.linaro.org/mailman3/lists/cross-distro.lists.linaro.org/ >=20 > Some of the right people are probably already there, but we should > encourage others with relevant expertise to join. >=20 That list is new to me (sub'd now) but I'm fine with using it as long as linaro are still OK with us using it and them maintaining it. Thanks for taking the initiative! If they aren't, we could request a list from lists.linux.dev (Linux Foundation). Best, sam --Apple-Mail=_37214F1E-A0DF-4DEB-86BB-E98B0BC013CF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEARYKAH0WIQQlpruI3Zt2TGtVQcJzhAn1IN+RkAUCY28oK18UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0MjVB NkJCODhERDlCNzY0QzZCNTU0MUMyNzM4NDA5RjUyMERGOTE5MAAKCRBzhAn1IN+R kJ1fAP9bPGmKSBJDZdVkiEI+OYaOzb5D9lPjGv2iMdg2ZDbieQEA43S7tQcY/WYM a78SZgI6pDxyMhUhLApDzxAUKkcAjwM= =KJjg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_37214F1E-A0DF-4DEB-86BB-E98B0BC013CF--