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From: Tobias Burnus <tburnus@baylibre.com>
To: Janne Blomqvist <blomqvist.janne@gmail.com>,
	FX Coudert <fxcoudert@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>,
	Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>,
	overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	"fortran@gcc.gnu.org" <fortran@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Generated files in libgfortran for Fortran intrinsic procedures (was: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:01:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <686fac37-698f-4373-9469-ccabe96e702a@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9iq9HffQYSr7Bd-6kJ+OhmEdu=0zFC=jpMxLB8S-eKH-RF=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Janne,

Janne Blomqvist wrote:
> back when I was active I did think about this
> issue. IMHO the best of my ideas was to convert these into C++
> templates.

I think this will work – but we have to be super careful:

With C++, there is the problem that we definitely do not want to add 
dependency on libstdc++ nor to use some features which require special 
hardware support (like exceptions [always bad], symbol aliases, ...). — 
On some systems, a full C++ support might be not available, like 
embedded systems (including some odd embedded OS) or offloading devices.

The libstdc++ dependency would be detected by linking as we currently 
do. For in-language features, we have to ensure the appropriate flags 
-fno-exceptions (and probably a few more). And it should be clear what 
language features to use.

If we do, I think that would surely be an option.

> What we're essentially doing with the M4 stuff and the
> proposed in-house Python reimplementation is to make up for lack of
> monomorphization in plain old C. Rather than doing some DIY templates,
> switch the implementation language to something which has that feature
> built-in, in this case C++.  No need to convert the entire libgfortran
> to C++ if you don't want to, just those objects that are generated
> from the M4 templates. Something like
>
> template<typename T>
> void matmul(T* a, T* b, T* c, ...)
> {
>     // actual matmul code here
> }
>
> extern "C" {
>    // Instantiate template for every type and export the symbol
>    void matmul_r4(gfc_array_r4* a, gfc_array_r4* b, gfc_array_r4* c, ...)
>    {
>      matmul(a, b, c, ...);
>    }
>    // And so on for other types
> }

Cheers,

Tobias

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-17 23:27 Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans Mark Wielaard
2024-04-18  6:04 ` Thomas Koenig
2024-04-18  8:14   ` FX Coudert
2024-04-18  9:01     ` Christophe Lyon
2024-04-18 11:38     ` Janne Blomqvist
2024-04-18 12:01       ` Tobias Burnus [this message]
2024-04-18 12:32         ` Generated files in libgfortran for Fortran intrinsic procedures (was: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans) Martin Uecker
2024-04-19  9:35   ` Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-18 15:56 ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-18 17:37   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2024-04-18 17:54     ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-18 18:29     ` Matt Rice
2024-04-22 15:39     ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-23  2:55       ` Jason Merrill
2024-04-23  3:12         ` Simon Marchi
2024-04-23  3:24         ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-23  3:51           ` Jason Merrill
2024-04-23  8:56             ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-23  9:39               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-04-23 15:08             ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-23 15:25               ` Simon Marchi
2024-04-24  8:49                 ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris
2024-04-23  4:06           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-04-23  9:30           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-04-23 13:51             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-05-01 19:15           ` Jeff Law
2024-05-01 19:38             ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-05-01 20:20               ` Mark Wielaard
2024-05-01 20:53                 ` Tom Tromey
2024-05-01 21:04                   ` Simon Marchi
2024-05-01 20:04             ` Jason Merrill
2024-05-01 21:26               ` Mark Wielaard
2024-05-01 22:01                 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2024-05-01 21:38               ` Jeff Law
2024-05-02  6:47                 ` Richard Biener
2024-05-02 11:29                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-05-01 22:56               ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-23 10:34         ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-22 10:01   ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-22 13:23     ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-19  9:33 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-22 10:24   ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-22 11:40     ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-23  0:48   ` Frank Ch. Eigler

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