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From: Carl Edquist <edquist@cs.wisc.edu>
To: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
Cc: Zachary Santer <zsanter@gmail.com>, bug-bash <bug-bash@gnu.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Examples of concurrent coproc usage?
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:04:27 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2febc4ce-a9a8-d1a9-51c3-0ed5d1b20716@cs.wisc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbfa18b9-4c28-46e7-833b-6861535b8a64@case.edu>

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Chet Ramey wrote:

> On 4/15/24 1:01 PM, Carl Edquist wrote:
>>
>>  Yet another point brought to light by the bcalc example relates to the
>>  coproc pid variable.  The reset() function first closes the coproc
>>  pipe fds, then sleeps for a second to give the BC coproc some time to
>>  finish.
>>
>>  An alternative might be to 'wait' for the coproc to finish (likely
>>  faster than sleeping for a second).
>
> If the coproc has some problem and doesn't exit immediately, `wait' 
> without options will hang. That's why I opted for the 
> sleep/kill-as-insurance combo.

Yes that much was clear from the script itself.

I didn't mean any of that as a critique of the bcalc script.  I just meant 
it brought to light the point that the coproc pid variable is another 
thing in the current deallocate-on-terminate behavior, that needs to be 
copied before it can be used reliably.  (With the 'kill' or 'wait' 
builtins.)

Though I do suspect that the most common case with coprocs is that closing 
the shell's read and write fds to the coproc is enough to cause the coproc 
to finish promptly - as neither read attempts on its stdin nor write 
attempts on its stdout can block anymore.

I think this is _definitely_ true for the BC coproc in the bcalc example. 
But it's kind of a distraction to get hung up on that detail, because in 
the general case there may very well be other scenarios where it would be 
appropriate to, um, _nudge_ the coproc a bit with the kill command.


> (And before you ask why I didn't use `wait -n', I wrote bcalc in 30 
> minutes after someone asked me a question about doing floating point 
> math with awk in a shell script, and it worked.)

It's fine!  It's just an example, after all  :)


Carl

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-20 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CABkLJULa8c0zr1BkzWLTpAxHBcpb15Xms0-Q2OOVCHiAHuL0uA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <9831afe6-958a-fbd3-9434-05dd0c9b602a@draigBrady.com>
2024-03-10 15:29   ` RFE: enable buffering on null-terminated data Zachary Santer
2024-03-10 20:36     ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-11  3:48       ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-11 11:54         ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-11 15:12           ` Examples of concurrent coproc usage? Zachary Santer
2024-03-14  9:58             ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-17 19:40               ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-01 19:24               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-01 19:31                 ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-02 16:22                   ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-03 13:54                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-03 14:32               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-03 17:19                 ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-08 15:07                   ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09  3:44                     ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-13 18:45                       ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-14  2:09                         ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-04 12:52                 ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-04 23:23                   ` Martin D Kealey
2024-04-08 19:50                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09 14:46                       ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-13 18:51                         ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-09 15:58                       ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-13 20:10                         ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-14 18:43                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-15 18:55                             ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-15 17:01                           ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-17 14:20                             ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-20 22:04                               ` Carl Edquist [this message]
2024-04-22 16:06                                 ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-27 16:56                                   ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-28 17:50                                     ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-08 16:21                   ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-12 16:49                     ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-16 15:48                       ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-20 23:11                         ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-22 16:12                           ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-17 14:37               ` Chet Ramey
2024-04-20 22:04                 ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-12  3:34           ` RFE: enable buffering on null-terminated data Zachary Santer
2024-03-14 14:15             ` Carl Edquist
2024-03-18  0:12               ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-19  5:24                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2024-03-19 12:50                   ` Zachary Santer
2024-03-20  8:55                     ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-19  0:16                       ` Modify buffering of standard streams via environment variables (not LD_PRELOAD)? Zachary Santer
2024-04-19  9:32                         ` Pádraig Brady
2024-04-19 11:36                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-19 12:26                             ` Pádraig Brady
2024-04-19 16:11                               ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-20 16:00                         ` Carl Edquist
2024-04-20 20:00                           ` Zachary Santer
2024-04-20 21:45                             ` Carl Edquist

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