From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 851111F461 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:32:54 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:cc:from:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id; q=dns; s=default; b=WCKW8n9qjxwKno/SFKB65qSqL4NXxOA +4Fw6HUAgc7v5FzTl0Kc3+Gu2Y6nyaty5EdpIGdW0LGmE2kGbKoooxHuiRCWBQBJ qWBO5SljZdzUM2WnNa224i0rVVPxL/8KvLXKyvGW43+mZOrF+6e551ZtjEFHk9yx YVqSBJUTpdAQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:cc:from:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id; s=default; bh=LUJp/JKN3kK50Y8aOFaenLBjxh8=; b=hkM4o 0m1S2sm0u06rWUkaUF1QMseY3WLpI67S9QiMQa+v2SJHyj9hCbK1IxO4BLgf7iES M1D1HwKs0LPn43jkWppJWYJti7JV2EFRYkm6VkWJcmR3HYGg8PcSaMtnI+CoQPGr NXOV83gCdsUSgbwblkmCZ25J7nmyRgbGPcjbR0= Received: (qmail 39411 invoked by alias); 16 Jul 2019 09:32:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 39397 invoked by uid 89); 16 Jul 2019 09:32:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-HELO: mail-out.m-online.net To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org cc: Lukasz Majewski From: Wolfgang Denk Subject: Re: Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: <20190712072103.D3DBC24003A@gemini.denx.de> References: <20190712072103.D3DBC24003A@gemini.denx.de> Comments: In-reply-to Wolfgang Denk message dated "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 09:21:03 +0200." Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:32:29 +0200 Message-Id: <20190716093229.9DD63240085@gemini.denx.de> Hi all, In message <20190712072103.D3DBC24003A@gemini.denx.de> I wrote: > > this is a somewhat desperate call for help... > > We have been trying for some time to help some of our customers to > get patches into glibc to fix the remaining Y2038 issues. > > But progress is way too slow... > > The problems we are facing are not on a technical level - we believe > we could deal with such. > > See for example [1] - there are just 7 lines of "code". But Joseph > does not accept our patches. The arguments he gives are not on a > technical level; instead he says that only a native English speaker > who has a with deep understanding of glibc internals and the > previous development process will be capable to provide such a patch > in an acceptable way. > > To be honest - I think only himself would fulfill this requirement > good enough. > > But Joseph has not enough resources available, and he cannot > allocate more resources even if such efforts would be paid for by > DENX. And he does not know of anyone to help. > > In short, we are stuck, and not even proper funding can accelerate > the process - not to mention, that it's impossible to give any > deadlines at all. > > > Obviously, this is just my personal and external view - I guess I > must be missing something, because I cannot imagine that the progress > of a project that plays such a central role to the whole FOSS > community suffers from such bottlenecks, and that these cannot be > helped. > > Is there anything we can do to accelerate this process? As > mentioned, we are willing to dedicate both man-power and/or money, > if this helps. > > Thanks in advance! > > [1] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1114061/ Is there nobody here who has any idea what could be done? No comments at all? Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de The only perfect science is hind-sight.