From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 169DB1F461 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 07:21:37 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:cc:subject:from:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; q=dns; s=default; b= l4HEOQU5eqGJxAPp5fes9s2cx/VUkRAuFwE60OVUU5AA2xViABkE94+is233mbM3 RCgeQLcpEWrVs45b9uSQ/rsH5SbNt+/Q2CjnXi4aDapVzotFrekRKH9IX394nNsQ Wj9UBinC8qrg0Pt5ybEi0Q5XVPGb6a9FbqQNU2+Mso8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:cc:subject:from:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; s=default; bh=9W1L1l AQOa9KYYEBX3KhRw+2Nm4=; b=W5eScy1D3f4PNhs3AEJXBg6rP9hI/NHoVqW1vK sGhbjboj+2g4M92EH8aGE4/6HPlRKNxMjRgdakRWlKS+KxaJx6Q4doGFj3z80Y18 HzsLemKyXCZ4tMMmNV6ghFPtQO/zJX3EpYeh2I3rkMN7RK9jQG6U3g/9roYGb2cx jfI0A= Received: (qmail 62794 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 2019 07:21:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 62786 invoked by uid 89); 12 Jul 2019 07:21:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-HELO: mail-out.m-online.net To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org Cc: Lukasz Majewski Subject: Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes From: Wolfgang Denk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 09:21:03 +0200 Message-Id: <20190712072103.D3DBC24003A@gemini.denx.de> Hi all, this is a somewhat desperate call for help... We have been trying for some time to help some of our customers to get patches into glibc to fix the remaining Y2038 issues. But progress is way too slow... The problems we are facing are not on a technical level - we believe we could deal with such. See for example [1] - there are just 7 lines of "code". But Joseph does not accept our patches. The arguments he gives are not on a technical level; instead he says that only a native English speaker who has a with deep understanding of glibc internals and the previous development process will be capable to provide such a patch in an acceptable way. To be honest - I think only himself would fulfill this requirement good enough. But Joseph has not enough resources available, and he cannot allocate more resources even if such efforts would be paid for by DENX. And he does not know of anyone to help. In short, we are stuck, and not even proper funding can accelerate the process - not to mention, that it's impossible to give any deadlines at all. Obviously, this is just my personal and external view - I guess I must be missing something, because I cannot imagine that the progress of a project that plays such a central role to the whole FOSS community suffers from such bottlenecks, and that these cannot be helped. Is there anything we can do to accelerate this process? As mentioned, we are willing to dedicate both man-power and/or money, if this helps. Thanks in advance! [1] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1114061/ Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it. -- James Michener, "Space"