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From: "Ondřej Bílka" <neleai@seznam.cz>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Add malloc micro benchmark
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:46:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180228164621.GA10445@domone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <808ed1e2-5945-0712-87a5-a0408de55fb0@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 03:16:09PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 02/28/2018 03:11 PM, Ondřej Bílka wrote:
> >Thats rather ineffective, it is easier to start fresh than try to
> >maintain rather obsolete allocator. Most of other are faster and more
> >space effective because of their layout.
> 
> That's not quite true.  Despite its limitations, glibc malloc still
> compares remarkably well to other allocators.

That confuses cause and effect. People spent lot of effort to fix
workloads where this allocator is bad (usually starts with saying that
malloc is slow) with trick like static buffers, merging allocations, memory pools etc. 
With better allocator it wouldn't be neccessary as it would handle simpler 
code with same performance. 
> 
> I think a heap-style allocator which does not segregate allocations
> of different sizes still has its place, and why not provide one in
> glibc?
>
That isn't case for any allocator and it is asking for trouble. You want
to avoid sitation where two big chunks couldn't be merged because of
tiny chunk between them. 
Also you will likely spend more space on header overhead than could you save.
For small sizes merging chunks doesn't happen so we lose nothing by
requiring uniform capacity. 

For larger size this representation is still problematic and you could
improve performance with another representation that also avoids
alignment problem by placing metadata elsewhere(for mine only 4 bytes are needed).




  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-28 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 13:51 [PATCH] Add malloc micro benchmark Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-01 16:13 ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-12-18 15:18   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-18 16:32     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-02 18:20       ` [PATCH v2] " Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-02 18:45         ` DJ Delorie
2018-01-03 12:12           ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-03 15:07             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-04 13:48               ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-04 16:37                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 14:32                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 15:50                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 16:17                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 16:46                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 17:27                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 14:33         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 16:28           ` Joseph Myers
2018-01-05 17:26             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 12:40               ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-28 14:11                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 14:16                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-28 16:16                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 20:17                       ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 16:46                     ` Ondřej Bílka [this message]
2018-02-28 17:01                       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-02-28 18:21                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 19:56                         ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 21:56                           ` DJ Delorie
2018-03-01 11:24                             ` Ondřej Bílka
2017-12-18 23:02     ` [PATCH] " DJ Delorie
2017-12-28 14:09       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-28 19:01         ` DJ Delorie

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