From: Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] Add generic C.UTF-8 locale (Bug 17318)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:18:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1aa2ac98-6858-61de-f631-011eac14c8ed@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6pf4ota.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On 4/30/21 2:20 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
>
>> On 4/29/21 4:05 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>>> - LC_CTYPE, includes "translit_combining" which is wrong for a C locale IMO.
>>> - Upstream C.UTF-8 includes no transliteration, all characters pass
>>> through because UTF-8 supports all such characters.
>>
>> It turns out that this is related to bug 26984.
>>
>> I was wrong too, the C locale has a builtin set of ~1600 transliterations that
>> it uses internally (I even reviewed a patch for that you committed).
>> I had completely forgotten about this internal detail.
>>
>> This transliteration affects converters ability to use //TRANSLIT, and so I
>> think we should include all the netural transliterations e.g.
>>
>> translit_start
>> include "translit_neutral";""
>> translit_end
>>
>> This makes things *better* with respect to harmonization with Debian/Ubuntu.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> In summary:
>> - POSIX says nothing about transliteration.
>> - C/POSIX already includes a partial set of ~1600 translit entries, and they
>> are largely incomplete. It would be nice to harmonize them with the proper
>> translit_neutral set.
>> - C.UTF-8 including translit_neutral would bring in ~25,000 translit rules
>> for conversions from UTF-8 to other charmaps. This would be a superset of
>> those offered by C/POSIX.
>> - Fixing C/POSIX is another issue.
>
> I'm in favor of including those transliterations.
Thanks. I'll spin a v5, test and repost.
I need to look at the size impact of the additional transliterations.
--
Cheers,
Carlos.
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-28 13:00 [PATCH v4 0/4] Add new C.UTF-8 locale (Bug 17318) Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-28 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] Add support for processing wide ellipsis ranges in UTF-8 Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 14:11 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-04-28 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Update UTF-8 charmap processing Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 14:07 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 21:02 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-30 4:18 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-05-02 19:18 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-28 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] Regenerate localedata files Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 21:03 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-28 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Add generic C.UTF-8 locale (Bug 17318) Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 14:13 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-04-29 20:05 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-30 17:59 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-04-30 18:20 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-05-02 19:18 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha [this message]
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