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From: Carlos O'Donell <codonell@redhat.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	nd@arm.com, GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Reserve static TLS for dynamically loaded initial-exec TLS only [BZ #25051]
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:05:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <043f4682-d009-0365-9bdc-f9bd402683b5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k14lmcct.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>

On 2/17/20 11:01 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
> 
>> Let me take a stab at this:
>>
>> (1) File a bug to indicate all libraries must stop using
>>     TLS IE to fix dlmopen issues with TLS IE.
> 
> Do you mean glibc components, or do you view this as a distribution-wide
> change?

All glibc libraries should stop using TLS IE and we should file bugs for
fixing these instances where TLS IE was used to work around startup ordering
problems.

I did not intend to imply a distribution-wide policy. Other packages can do
what they want, and their use of TLS IE will limit dlmopen capabilities
including causing it to fail.

>> (2) Set DL_NNS to 4, and add a tunable that lets you change
>>     the limit to reduce surplus memory allocated.
>>
>>     (2.a) send linux man-pages a patch to make dlmopen(3)
>>     ambiguous about how many namespaces are supported and
>>     to point at the tunable to increase the memory used.
>>
>> (3) I think that the surplus should be split into two
>>     blocks:
>>     (3.a) Some reserved for TLS IE libs.
>>     (3.b) Some reserved for tlsdesc optimization.
>>
>>     My opinion is that any library that is loaded and
>>     needs TLS IE should be able to use (3.a). We should
>>     reserve enough for (3.a) to be able to load glibc
>>     libraries, libgomp, and libgl (as you note).
> 
> There's also a potential for not letting audit libraries consume
> namespace slots (once they are dynamic).  This will enable lower DL_NNS
> defaults.

I don't quite follow what you mean here, can you expand on that?

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-20 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-07 11:54 [PATCH] Reserve static TLS for dynamically loaded initial-exec TLS only [BZ #25051] Szabolcs Nagy
2020-01-07 12:09 ` Florian Weimer
2020-01-07 12:50   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-02-13 16:38     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-02-13 18:07       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-02-17 16:01         ` Florian Weimer
2020-02-20 15:05           ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2020-02-21 12:58             ` Florian Weimer
2020-02-27 16:21               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-02-27 16:31                 ` Florian Weimer

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