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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Michael J Gruber <git@grubix.eu>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Ekelhart Jakob <jakob.ekelhart@fsw.at>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] merge-base: return fork-point outside reflog
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:49:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqzi9nlcyw.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a2fca1d-4edf-965f-4840-58c924c91051@grubix.eu> (Michael J. Gruber's message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:39:12 +0200")

Michael J Gruber <git@grubix.eu> writes:

> Also, I'm undecided about about your reflog argument above - if we leave
> "--fork-point" to be the current behaviour including Jeff's fix then the
> documentation would need an even bigger overhaul, because it's neither
> "reflog also" (as claimed in the doc) nor "reflog only" (as in the
> original implementation) but "historical tips as inferred from the
> current value and the reflog".

Even though things like "reflog only", "reflog also", may be
something implementors may care about, they are irrelevant
implementation details to the intended audience.  "The bases that
are not in reflogs are ignored" _does_ matter, as it affects the
outcome, and that may be a bit too strict a filter (which this
series takes us in a good direction to fix) but what the readers
need to know is the real-world implications of the choices made at
the implementation detail level, and more importantly, what the
implementation is trying to compute.

It is a documentation bug (with or without these patches) if the
current text gives an impression that the code is trying to do
anything but "guessing the fork point using historical tips".

> In any case, for two modes we need two names for the options. Maybe
> --fork-point and --fork-base because in the loose mode, you may get a
> "base of a strict fork point"?

Perhaps.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <c76e76a4ef11480da9995b0bec5a70e1@SFSWW2K12EX02.intern.fsw.at>
2017-09-13 15:07 ` merge-base not working as expected when base is ahead Ekelhart Jakob
2017-09-14  8:09   ` Michael J Gruber
2017-09-14 13:15     ` [PATCH 0/3] merge-base --fork-point fixes Michael J Gruber
2017-09-14 13:15       ` [PATCH 1/3] t6010: test actual test output Michael J Gruber
2017-09-14 14:34         ` Jeff King
2017-09-15 10:01           ` Michael J Gruber
2017-09-15 11:20             ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 13:15       ` [PATCH 2/3] merge-base: return fork-point outside reflog Michael J Gruber
2017-09-15  2:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-15  9:59           ` Phillip Wood
2017-09-15 10:23           ` Michael J Gruber
2017-09-15 18:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21  6:27               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21  9:39                 ` Michael J Gruber
2017-09-22  1:49                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-09-22  8:34                     ` Michael J Gruber
2017-09-22  9:14                       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-03  6:05                         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-08  8:52                           ` Ekelhart Jakob
2017-11-08  9:33                             ` Michael J Gruber
2017-11-09  2:49                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14 13:15       ` [PATCH 3/3] merge-base: find fork-point outside partial reflog Michael J Gruber
2017-09-14 14:37         ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 13:49       ` [PATCH 0/3] merge-base --fork-point fixes Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-14 14:38       ` Jeff King

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