From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
Cc: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>,
GitList <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:04:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwpkq6b4d.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5784F43E.3080400@xiplink.com> (Marc Branchaud's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:44:30 -0400")
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com> writes:
>> +The '{caret}' (caret) notation
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> To exclude commits reachable from a commit, a prefix '{caret}'
>> notation is used. E.g. '{caret}r1 r2' means commits reachable
>> from 'r2' but exclude the ones reachable from 'r1'.
>
> All of these headings render poorly in the manpage, at least for me
> (Ubuntu 16.04). Only the first word appears in bold; the '-quoted
> text is not bold but underlined, and the rest of the header is plain.
>
>
> Also, I think calling this "The ^ notation" is confusing, because
> there's already an earlier paragraph on the "<rev>^" syntax.
>
> Maybe we don't need a header here? I only suggest that because I'm
> having trouble coming up with a nice alternative. "Commit Exclusion"?
Thanks for pointing out the potential confusion between ^X (exclude
reachable), and X^ (the first parent). Commit exclusion is probably
a good heading.
>> -This set operation appears so often that there is a shorthand
>> +The '..' (two-dot) range notation
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Perhaps "Range notation", to mirror the capitalization of "Symmetric
> Difference" in the next header?
>> ...
>> +The '...' (three dot) Symmetric Difference notation
This uses a strange capitalization rule. s/notation/Notation/
perhaps? The same comment for "Additional Shothand notation" below.
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> A similar notation 'r1\...r2' is called symmetric difference
>> of 'r1' and 'r2' and is defined as
>> 'r1 r2 --not $(git merge-base --all r1 r2)'.
>> It is the set of commits that are reachable from either one of
>> 'r1' (Left side) or 'r2' (Right side) but not from both.
>>
>> -In these two shorthands, you can omit one end and let it default to HEAD.
>> +In these two shorthand notations, you can omit one end and let it default to HEAD.
>> For example, 'origin..' is a shorthand for 'origin..HEAD' and asks "What
>> did I do since I forked from the origin branch?" Similarly, '..origin'
>> is a shorthand for 'HEAD..origin' and asks "What did the origin do since
>> I forked from them?" Note that '..' would mean 'HEAD..HEAD' which is an
>> empty range that is both reachable and unreachable from HEAD.
>
> Unfortunately the new headings make it appear that this paragraph is
> exclusively part of the '...' notation section. Folks reading the
> ..' section are likely to skip it.
>
> I like the examples, though. I think it would be worthwhile to remove
> this paragraph and fold it explicitly into the '..' and '...' notation
> sections.
An alternative would be to have
- Dotted range notations
- Two-dot notation
- Three-dot notation
which would help make it stand out that defaulting is common
characteristics between .. and ... notations. But I can imagine
that your "with slight duplication" variant below would work well,
too.
> So add something like this to the '..' section (only the first
> sentence here is new):
>
> Either r1 or r2 can be omitted, in which case HEAD is used as
> the default. For example, 'origin..' is a shorthand for
> 'origin..HEAD' and asks "What did I do since I forked from the
> origin branch?" Similarly, '..origin' is a shorthand for
> 'HEAD..origin' and asks "What did the origin do since I forked
> from them?" Note that '..' would mean 'HEAD..HEAD' which is an
> empty range that is both reachable and unreachable from HEAD.
>
> And also, add the same first sentence and a different example to the
> ...' section. Something like this:
>
> Either r1 or r2 can be omitted, in which case HEAD is used as
> the default. For example, 'origin...' is a shorthand for
> 'origin...HEAD' and asks "What have I and origin both done
> since I forked from the origin branch?" Note that 'origin...'
> and '...origin' ask the same question.
>> +Additional '{caret}' Shorthand notations
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Two other shorthands for naming a set that is formed by a commit
>> -and its parent commits exist. The 'r1{caret}@' notation means all
>> -parents of 'r1'. 'r1{caret}!' includes commit 'r1' but excludes
>> -all of its parents.
>> +and its parent commits exist.
>
> I think descriptions of <rev>^@ and <rev>^! should live under the main
> description of <rev>^. That part already describes the numeric
> suffix, so describing a couple of special suffixes there seems like a
> natural fit.
I actually think this is a good place to have them described.
<rev>^<number> is about specifying a single commit. These two are
not that (you can say HEAD^2^@ but you cannot say HEAD^@^2, for
example).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-12 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-22 7:25 name for A..B ranges? Philip Oakley
2016-06-24 16:09 ` Jeff King
2016-06-24 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-25 13:50 ` Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 18:47 ` [PATCH] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Name for A..B ranges? Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] doc: clarify that `^r1` will exclude `r1` itself Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 21:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 22:08 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 23:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-10 21:17 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] doc: revisions - name the Left and Right sides Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 16:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 21:47 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 13:44 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-12 17:04 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-07-12 22:11 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-19 16:03 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-19 19:15 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 21:41 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 22:12 ` Jeff King
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 13:48 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-12 21:44 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 19:29 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 22:29 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:09 ` [PATCH v4 " Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] doc: revisions - name the left and right sides Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-07-21 14:42 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-21 19:54 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-21 21:20 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-22 22:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 22:22 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 21:50 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-11 21:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-26 11:33 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-26 16:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 22:32 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45 ` [PATCH v6 " Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] doc: revisions: extra clarification of <rev>^! notation effects Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] doc: revisions: single vs multi-parent notation comparison Philip Oakley
2016-08-26 15:30 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-26 16:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-12 23:45 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] doc: revisions: show revision expansion in examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] doc: revisions: sort examples and fix alignment of the unchanged Philip Oakley
2016-08-15 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 15:00 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-15 16:55 ` BUG: indent-with-non-tab always on (was: Re: [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions) Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 17:54 ` BUG: indent-with-non-tab always on Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 17:06 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions Junio C Hamano
2016-08-31 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 " Philip Oakley
2016-08-11 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] doc: revisions - name the left and right sides Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] doc: revisions: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:10 ` Jeff King
2016-08-12 14:37 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] doc: revisions: extra clarification of <rev>^! notation effects Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 14:39 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:17 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] doc: revisions: single vs multi-parent notation comparison Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 14:40 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:23 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-08-28 13:01 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29 13:21 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-29 14:43 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29 19:27 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] doc: revisions: show revision expansion in examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 15:22 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:45 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] doc: revisions: sort examples and fix alignment of the unchanged Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 15:28 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 19:20 ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 21:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-25 19:49 ` name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-06-27 13:37 ` Philip Oakley
2016-06-27 15:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-27 15:39 ` Philip Oakley
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