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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] WIP: add deprecation & experimental process/interface
Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 09:56:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwp8zduwd.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8CUpHNDfvN+P7=Jub4+Z281rzExFV9x3_hdVKw6ORUSqQ@mail.gmail.com> (Duy Nguyen's message of "Mon, 29 May 2017 17:23:09 +0700")

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:

>>  * Add a new config variable `core.version`. E.g. `core.version =
>>    2.14.0` With this the user can specify that they'd like
>>    new/experimental features introduced in that version (and below),
>>    as well as immediately getting new deprecations added in that
>>    version as errors.
>
> We have extensions.* for this purpose (or close to this purpose). I
> think it's more flexible to go with extensions.* instead of a single
> "core.version". extensions.* are non-optional though (if a git binary
> does not understand it, the repo can't be accessed). So it's more
> about fundamental experiments (like sha256 transition). I'm guessing
> we can have a "soft" extensions (warn if not understand, instead of
> die), like what we have in $GIT_DIR/index.
>
> Deprecation via extension.* though may be unintuitive. But I think
> something along that line (e.g. deprecation.*) might work.

The difference/orthogonal-ness of what Ævar wants to do and what the
extension mechanism wants to do has been covered by others correctly
so I won't repeat.  But I do agree with you that "run at this
version level" is probably less useful than a la carte "I want to
enroll in this and that experiment but not the other one".

I also agree with Peff that we should name it as distinctively as
the names used by extensions mechaism---we must strongly discourage
the latter from being futzed by the end users, while this opt-in
thing is very much open to them.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-30  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-27 11:10 [RFC/PATCH] WIP: add deprecation & experimental process/interface Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-28  1:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-29  1:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-29 11:11   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-29 10:23 ` Duy Nguyen
2017-05-29 11:20   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-29 14:38     ` Jeff King
2017-05-30  0:56   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]

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