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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
	 Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	 Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] upload-pack: allow configuring a missing-action
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 02:43:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwmn9athc.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD18Y=NhnnzcHoBOiO7bu_VrxnHOeLgUeqiADQPcgtMW=A@mail.gmail.com> (Christian Couder's message of "Fri, 31 May 2024 22:43:33 +0200")

Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:

>> Hmph.  If C asks a partial clone and S is willing to be the promisor
>> for C, S is essentially saying that it will serve C any objects on
>> demand that are reachable from any object it served C in the past,
>> forever, no?  It might not get from S initially all the objects, but
>> if it wants later, S promises to let C have them.
>
> This promise is not broken, as S can still get the missing objects
> from X and then pass them to C. There is even the following test case
> in the patch that shows that it works when uploadpack.missingAction is
> unset (and thus default to "error" which is the same as how things
> currently work):

And the whole point of that configuration is to make it easier for S
to break that promise, no?  uploadPack.missingAction is set at S and
is not under control of C, right?

> So S keeps its promise to let C have any object through S if C wants.
> It's just that having large objects through S (instead of directly
> from X) is not a good idea ...
> ...
> So if it's Ok for other features to require an additional server to
> fulfill the promise, why is it not Ok in the case of S + X?

I am questioning the design that does not give C any say in the
decision if it is a good idea or not to ask S relay large objects.
S unilaterally decides that it does not want to and does not serve
such large objects to C, and without even checking with C if it can
reach X to fetch directly, silently assuming that C will do so,
right?  It is quite different from the contract between C and S in
the simpler world.

> I don't understand why you compare this to a "broken" implementation
> of promisor remotes. What could then be a non-broken one that would
> store large blobs on a separate server in your opinion? I am really
> interested in answers to this question. It's not a rhetorical one.

You as S would tell C "I want you to go to X because I am not
serving objects X and Y".  Or at least make sure that C knows about
X before deciding to omit what X ought to have.  Not doing anything
and silently assuming that C will get them from elsewhere is simply
irresponsible, especially if C is not even told about X over the
protocol, no?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-01  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-12 13:51 [PATCH 0/3] Implement filtering repacks Christian Couder
2022-10-12 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout Christian Couder
2022-10-12 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option Christian Couder
2022-10-12 13:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] repack: introduce --force to force filtering Christian Couder
2022-10-14 16:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] Implement filtering repacks Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 11:23   ` Christian Couder
2022-10-28 19:49     ` Taylor Blau
2022-10-28 20:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-07  9:12         ` Christian Couder
2022-11-07  9:00       ` Christian Couder
2022-10-25 12:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Christian Couder
2022-10-25 12:28   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout Christian Couder
2022-10-25 12:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option Christian Couder
2022-10-28 19:54   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Implement filtering repacks Taylor Blau
2022-11-07  9:29     ` Christian Couder
2022-11-22 17:51   ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Couder
2022-11-22 17:51     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout Christian Couder
2022-11-22 17:51     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option Christian Couder
2022-11-23  0:31     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Implement filtering repacks Junio C Hamano
2022-12-21  3:53       ` Christian Couder
2022-11-23  0:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-21  4:04     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] " Christian Couder
2022-12-21  4:04       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout Christian Couder
2023-01-04 14:56         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-12-21  4:04       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option Christian Couder
2023-01-04 14:56         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-01-05  1:39           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-21  4:04       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] gc: add gc.repackFilter config option Christian Couder
2023-01-04 14:57         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] upload-pack: support a missing-action Christian Couder
2024-05-15 13:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] rev-list: refactor --missing=<missing-action> Christian Couder
2024-05-15 16:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 13:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] pack-objects: use the missing action API Christian Couder
2024-05-15 16:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-24 16:40       ` Christian Couder
2024-05-15 13:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] upload-pack: allow configuring a missing-action Christian Couder
2024-05-15 17:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-24 16:41       ` Christian Couder
2024-05-24 21:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-28 10:10           ` Christian Couder
2024-05-28 15:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 20:43               ` Christian Couder
2024-06-01  9:43                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-06-03 15:01                   ` Christian Couder
2024-06-03 17:29                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] upload-pack: support " Christian Couder

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