From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740901F8CF for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 01:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751686AbdFJBvS (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2017 21:51:18 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f193.google.com ([209.85.192.193]:33021 "EHLO mail-pf0-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751637AbdFJBvR (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2017 21:51:17 -0400 Received: by mail-pf0-f193.google.com with SMTP id w12so171003pfk.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=5zFv3WVYCyia2heZ0RGt7/mPVZkspaO6H1Cne3EnvW0=; b=sfxsnHniWt9MAGvXshS1JamJnb6X6cT5Y2jKe6vAa6lZ8/z1dpiScdU6J8TWhXDhPc JfGkj7HmALrGMIcPPHPLzuoeKAxrf1Ugha1OSd3Pqvs43YGgMmH8DtS7SHjtuR+1d7Nt 2RJJ7pN9/CUNeFpyL7N1Xcj1oM+SvIfvw7zaiQQV/s5GLnvPG2BBo5FlWCNdZXh9dGno NaLmsPBeGmEDiJMFe9z1HlpnaBa7f/bqAF6truGlnSmpvi9xVxXaUlY+AOY9EL/teGj7 e4Qo19tkVFfjTApkGYKNDewtIHYU7pnkvejyaNPW3T1k++ziYuecM5EVUom2NDP4KqbT HxKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=5zFv3WVYCyia2heZ0RGt7/mPVZkspaO6H1Cne3EnvW0=; b=KcU++hgRhlTfIUzolm8crSYI6V1j2PLm6j1QP0gn2QLA8jHz52HMjwvqnzBPEvM/oi 7ZmZEuYiTCfPDZjiyD75Gty/WtA+AL+c2FdMXYui6Tl2o97if5payi2mZpEViwXLqzKd Epgm0pDkxRkS7ITL8rvWmWOxTSqBY7t8ty32sQBSVuEwomFnMxMjNQqa2yy+/9cIvgdE 4l1IJTbpaHw3wPrGH7fwk5fbbk3MWXZWj+sxr0wuIFBmj0p33PqmADZ6mQVS7Ly6gFDt pH8f9Im1EKn02K3B2MhpUPxjd2neoINNiRU2mZxCdsUBu0QyY1J7H3UxXOm+FA1VGgt+ lQ4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCaKmpozatPIHh0yoXcPsK7SUtIzsgyl0swg9CA/2ALkNb+RHD7 +1LAEl7yQpKN6g== X-Received: by 10.84.233.198 with SMTP id m6mr43283744pln.292.1497059476712; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2620:0:1000:8622:25b5:3bc1:d744:5d92]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n71sm5146175pfg.46.2017.06.09.18.51.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Lars Schneider Cc: Jonathan Nieder , git@vger.kernel.org, peff@peff.net Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] Configure Git contribution guidelines for github.com References: <20170609142151.94811-1-larsxschneider@gmail.com> <20170609170357.GE21733@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:51:15 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20170609170357.GE21733@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:03:57 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Jonathan Nieder writes: > Lars Schneider wrote: > >> Many open source projects use github.com for their contribution process. >> Although we mirror the Git core repository to github.com [1] we do not >> use any other github.com service. This is unknown/unexpected to a >> number of (potential) contributors and consequently they create Pull >> Requests against our mirror with their contributions. These Pull >> Requests become stall [2]. This is frustrating to them as they think we >> ignore them and it is also unsatisfactory for us as we miss potential >> code improvements and/or new contributors. > > I think this description could be more focused. It's also not > self-contained --- e.g. the link to stalled pull requests is likely to > become stale over time, especially if GitHub gives us a way to disable > pull requests for the repository some day. > > Could you summarize for me the motivation behind this patch? Is it to > make Git more approachable, to avoid frustrating contributors, etc? I wonder if s/stall/stale/ is what Lars meant. I think it is fair to say that new contributors who are used to GitHub pull request would find workflow with the mailing list unfamiliar, and from that point of view, this is a step in a good direction. Back when I added GitHub as one of the publishing repositories, the best way to convey this message available to us was to have a short comment on the repository telling the readers not to throw a pull-request at us. If there are other mechanisms to do so more effectively, we should use it.