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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Denton Liu" <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] parse-options: allow for configuring option abbreviation
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:47:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqtvfiuhn1.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAPig+cR0Ldt3EpQ683ZFNFXggfsTrdeZ3R-V6pDBZNA1N3c+xg@mail.gmail.com

Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> writes:

> I don't get why having a configuration option is better for defending
> scripts against this problem than a simple environment variable. It
> seems easier for the script prologue to contain:
>
>     GIT_TEST_ABBREVIATED_OPTIONS=false
>     export GIT_TEST_ABBREVIATED_OPTIONS
>
> than for it to muck about with git-config or use "git -c
> core.abbreviatedOptions=false ..." everywhere. The commit message
> doesn't do a good enough job of justifying the configuration option
> over the environment variable.

Absolutely.

One thing that big brotherly types would find config attractive is
to install centrally managed /etc/gitconfig so that they can tell
the tracing machinery to log all git command invocations centrally;
with environment only system, it is not easy to arrange.

But this one under discussion is probably a use case that is at the
other end of the extreme from that.

Users (1) may use scripts written by third-parties, (2) may also
develop their own scripts, and (3) even may run Git commands
interactively.

It is a laudable goal to introduce a mechanism to "notice use of
abbreviated options that happen to be unique right now but may not
stay unique forever and warn against it".  But (2) among the above
three uses is the only use case that wants the protection, which
makes the configuration a poor fit for the purpose.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-01 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-25 18:14 [PATCH 0/8] Do not use abbreviated options in tests Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/8] tests (rebase): spell out the `--keep-empty` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/8] tests (rebase): spell out the `--force-rebase` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 3/8] t7810: do not abbreviate `--no-exclude-standard` nor `--invert-match` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 4/8] t5531: avoid using an abbreviated option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 5/8] tests (push): do not abbreviate the `--follow-tags` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 6/8] tests (status): spell out the `--find-renames` option in full Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 7/8] tests (pack-objects): use the full, unabbreviated `--revs` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:14 ` [PATCH 8/8] tests: disallow the use of abbreviated options (by default) Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-03-25 18:35   ` Denton Liu
2019-03-25 20:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-12  8:48       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-12  8:50     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-25 19:47   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-12  8:59     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-25 20:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] allow for configuring option abbreviation + fix Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-25 20:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] parse-options: allow for configuring option abbreviation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-25 21:23   ` Eric Sunshine
2019-03-25 22:47     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-26  4:14       ` Duy Nguyen
2019-03-26  6:28         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-26  7:13           ` Duy Nguyen
2019-03-26 11:00             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-01 10:47     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2019-04-12  9:06       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-25 20:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] parse-options: don't emit "ambiguous option" for aliases Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-17 12:44   ` [PATCH v2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-17 16:04     ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-18  0:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-18  9:29         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-19  4:39           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-22 12:22             ` [PATCH] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-04-22 12:34               ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-29 10:05               ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-05-07  3:43                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-07 11:58                   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-02  0:58 ` [PATCH 0/8] Do not use abbreviated options in tests Junio C Hamano
2019-04-12  9:37 ` [PATCH v2 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] tests (rebase): spell out the `--keep-empty` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] tests (rebase): spell out the `--force-rebase` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] t7810: do not abbreviate `--no-exclude-standard` nor `--invert-match` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] t5531: avoid using an abbreviated option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] tests (push): do not abbreviate the `--follow-tags` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] tests (status): spell out the `--find-renames` option in full Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] tests (pack-objects): use the full, unabbreviated `--revs` option Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-12  9:37   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] tests: disallow the use of abbreviated options (by default) Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-04-14  2:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-15  2:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-15 13:09         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-15 13:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-17 12:07             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-15 13:08       ` Johannes Schindelin

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