From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC24C1F5AE for ; Mon, 10 May 2021 06:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230049AbhEJG0Q (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2021 02:26:16 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:58889 "EHLO pb-smtp20.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229863AbhEJG0Q (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2021 02:26:16 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE36141253; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:25:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=24ENRoUBMNXi lsygNzHKC37tYfy8k1Ao64PwFuqEua0=; b=VJ5505flJHi3N53SLZCJQl8HSlk5 fOfJjwhYYCbiOj/E2zVOjMA2dwdtxWsss++WQqZZODcX00qbu0bjQAliM0bcJW/r +nzdwz7G0ugi8VtzDUTU6tz7mKv6JKEqlgUHkZ9w45XD8l+RIsoq8ubh/OfbZ5G4 qzI+MjtXiR9EebI= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3673141252; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:25:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.74.119.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5DE0141251; Mon, 10 May 2021 02:25:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Eric Sunshine Cc: =?utf-8?B?xJBvw6BuIFRy4bqnbiBDw7RuZw==?= Danh , =?utf-8?B?TMOpbmHDr2M=?= Huard , Git List , Derrick Stolee , "brian m . carlson" , Bagas Sanjaya , Phillip Wood , =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmo=?= =?utf-8?B?w7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] maintenance: use systemd timers on Linux References: <20210501145220.2082670-1-lenaic@lhuard.fr> <20210509213217.449489-1-lenaic@lhuard.fr> <20210509213217.449489-2-lenaic@lhuard.fr> Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 15:25:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Eric Sunshine's message of "Sun, 9 May 2021 22:48:17 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 77BB153E-B158-11EB-AE72-E43E2BB96649-77302942!pb-smtp20.pobox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Eric Sunshine writes: >> I think others have strong opinion on not using "%1$s", >> and prefer simple "%s" and using "exec_path" twice instead. > > I brought it up only because I hadn't seen it in Git sources, and > wasn't sure if we'd want to start using it. Aside from =C3=86var, who > seemed reasonably in favor of it, nobody else chimed in, so it could > go either way, I suppose. If this were a piece of code that _everybody_ would use on _all_ the supported platforms, I would suggest declaring that this is a weather-balloon to see if some platforms have trouble using it. But unfortunately this is not such a piece of code. Dependence on systemd should strictly be opt-in. So my preference is - here, just do it in the dumb and simple way - somewhere else, find code that is compiled and run for everybody on all platforms that feeds two same arguments to printf format, and update it to use "%1$x" twice, mark it clearly as a weather balloon, and document it (see how what 512f41cf did is documented in Documentation/CodingGuidelines and mimick, but tone it down as we haven't declared it safe to use (yet). It is likely that we need rearrangement of argument order for po/ files anyway, but a misimplementation might not handle using the same placeholder twice, and that is why I'd like to be a bit extra careful.