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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Kevin Daudt <me@ikke.info>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] rev-list: refuse --first-parent combined with --bisect
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqsidb5m2r.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150311184512.GB5442@vps892.directvps.nl> (Kevin Daudt's message of "Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:45:12 +0100")

Kevin Daudt <me@ikke.info> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 04:12:18PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> What does such a command line _mean_?  It tells us this:
>> 
>>     Define a set by having the "bad" ref as a positive end, and
>>     having all the "good" refs as negative (uninteresting) boundary.
>> 
>> That is a way to show commits that are reachable from the bad one
>> and excluding the ones that are reachable from any of the known-good
>> commits.  The area of the graph in the current bisection that
>> contains suspect commits.
>> 
>> Now, what does it mean to pull only the first-parent chain starting
>> from the bad one in such a set in the first place?  What does the
>> resulting set of commits mean?
>
> In that case it will leave out any merged in branches.

Needs a bit more thinking (hint: branches merged into *what*?).

> I recalled reading something about this. Searching found me the GSoC
> idea:
>
>     When your project is strictly "new features are merged into trunk,
>     never the other way around", it is handy to be able to first find a
>     merge on the trunk that merged a topic to point fingers at when a
>     bug appears, instead of having to drill down to the individual
>     commit on the faulty side branch.
>
> So there is definitely a use case for --bisect --first-parent, which
> would show you those commits that would be part of the bisection.

Step back and think why "git bisect --first-parent" is sometimes
desired in the first place.

It is because in the regular bisection, you will almost always end
up on a commit that is _not_ on the first-parent chain and asked to
check that commit at a random place on a side branch in the first
place. And you mark such a commit as "bad".

The thing is, traversing from that "bad" commit that is almost
always is on a side branch, following the first-parent chain, will
not be a useful history that "leaves out any merged in branches".

When "git bisect --first-parent" feature gets implemented, "do not
use --first-parent with --bisect" limitation has to be lifted
anyway, but until then, not allowing "--first-parent --bisect" for
"rev-list" but allowing it for "log" does not buy our users much.
The output does not give us a nice "show me which merges on the
trunk may have caused the breakage to be examined with the remainder
of this bisect session".

So, yes, there is a use case for "log --bisect --first-parent", once
there is a working "bisect --first-parent", but not until then, the
command is not useful, I would think.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-11 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 14:19 [BUG] Segfault with rev-list --bisect Troy Moure
2015-03-04  5:33 ` Jeff King
2015-03-04 23:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-05  2:15   ` Troy Moure
2015-03-07 21:31   ` [PATCH] rev-list: refuse --first-parent combined with --bisect Kevin Daudt
2015-03-07 23:13     ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-08  8:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-08 14:18     ` [PATCH v2] " Kevin Daudt
2015-03-08 15:02       ` [PATCH v3] " Kevin Daudt
2015-03-08 15:03       ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-08 21:58         ` Eric Sunshine
2015-03-09 11:57           ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-09 20:56         ` [PATCH v4] " Kevin Daudt
2015-03-10 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-10 22:55             ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-10 23:12               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-11 18:45                 ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-11 20:13                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-03-16 16:33                     ` Kevin Daudt
2015-03-16 18:53                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-16 20:25                         ` Philip Oakley
2015-03-16 21:05                           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-17 16:09                             ` Christian Couder
2015-03-17 18:33                               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-17 19:49                                 ` Christian Couder
2015-03-17 20:46                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-18 10:36                                     ` Christian Couder
2015-03-19 23:51                                 ` Philip Oakley
2015-03-20 13:02                         ` Scott Schmit
2015-03-19 22:14           ` [PATCH v5] " Kevin Daudt
2015-03-19 22:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-21 22:01               ` Kevin Daudt

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