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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
	mlbright@gmail.com,
	"Remi Galan Alfonso" <remi.galan-alfonso@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Wong" <e@80x24.org>,
	"Ramsay Jones" <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:35:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqshusny86.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7F1F1A0E-8FC3-4FBD-81AA-37786DE0EF50@gmail.com> (Lars Schneider's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:04:31 +0200")

Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com> writes:

> I think sending it upfront is nice for buffer allocations of big files
> and it doesn't cost us anything to do it.

While I do NOT think "total size upfront" MUST BE avoided at all costs,
I do not think the above statement to justify it makes ANY sense.

Big files are by definition something you cannot afford to hold its
entirety in core, so you do not want to be told that you'd be fed 40GB
and ask xmalloc to allocate that much.

It allows the reader to be lazy for buffer allocations as long as
you know the file fits in-core, at the cost of forcing the writer to
somehow come up with the total number of bytes even before sending a
single byte (in other words, if the writer cannot produce and hold
the data in-core, it may even have to spool the data in a temporary
file only to count, and then play it back after showing the total
size).

It is good that you allow both mode of operations and the size of
the data can either be given upfront (which allows a single fixed
allocation upfront without realloc, as long as the data fits in
core), or be left "(atend)".

I just don't want to see it oversold as a "feature" that the size
has to come before data.  That is a limitation, not a feature.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-29 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 15:48 [PATCH v1 0/3] Git filter protocol larsxschneider
2016-07-22 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-07-22 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-07-26 15:18   ` Remi Galan Alfonso
2016-07-26 20:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-22 15:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] convert: add filter.<driver>.useProtocol option larsxschneider
2016-07-22 22:32   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-24 12:09     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-22 23:19   ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-22 23:28     ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-24 17:16     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-24 22:36       ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-24 23:22         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:32           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 10:58             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:24         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-23  0:11   ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-23  7:27     ` Eric Wong
2016-07-26 20:00       ` Jeff King
2016-07-24 18:36     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-24 20:14       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-24 21:30         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:16           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 12:24             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:09         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 14:18           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-23  8:14   ` Eric Wong
2016-07-24 19:11     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-25  7:27       ` Eric Wong
2016-07-25 15:48       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-22 21:39 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] Git filter protocol Junio C Hamano
2016-07-24 11:24   ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 20:11     ` Jeff King
2016-07-27  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-07-27 20:01     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28  8:23       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] pkt-line: extract and use `set_packet_header` function larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-27  9:13       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27 16:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] convert: generate large test files only once larsxschneider
2016-07-27  2:35     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-27 13:32       ` Jeff King
2016-07-27 16:50         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option larsxschneider
2016-07-27  1:32     ` Jeff King
2016-07-27 17:31       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27 18:11         ` Jeff King
2016-07-28 12:10           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-28 13:35             ` Jeff King
2016-07-27  9:41     ` Eric Wong
2016-07-29 10:38       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 11:24         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29 11:31           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 18:55         ` Eric Wong
2016-08-05 23:26           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 23:38             ` Eric Wong
2016-07-27 23:31     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29  8:04       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 17:35         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-07-29 23:11           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29 23:44             ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-30  9:32               ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28 10:32     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-27 19:08   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Git filter protocol Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28  7:16     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-28 10:42       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28 13:29       ` Jeff King
2016-07-29  7:40         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29  8:14           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 15:57             ` Jeff King
2016-07-29 16:20               ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 16:50                 ` Jeff King
2016-07-29 17:43                   ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 18:27                     ` Jeff King

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