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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:17:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqshgz1319.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170810213348.g4lue3j4uz6qapal@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:33:49 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:36:41AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
>> Hopefully I had better luck expressing my concerns this time?
>
> I understand your argument much better now. I'm still not sure I agree.
>
> -Peff

I do not think "there are a dozen #ifdefs and I don't know whether
they still work. I don't know whether anybody (who most likely has
better things to do than read the Git mailing list) is still using
those.  So let's just remove them." was why you were suggesting to
clean up the (apparent) support of older curl in the code, though.

Isn't the reason why your series simplifies these #ifdefs away
because we by accident started using some features that require a
version that is even newer than any of these #ifdef's try to cater
to and yet nobody complained?  That is a lot more similar to the
removal of rsync transport that happened in a not so distant past,
where the reason for removal was "We have been shipping code that
couldn't have possibly worked for some time and nobody complained
---we know nobody is depending on it."

Or "We accidentally started shipping code with comma after the last
element of enum decl and nobody compalined---everybody's compiler
must be ready" ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-10 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-09 12:00 [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:29   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:13     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-09 18:03     ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-08-09 21:17       ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 21:29         ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-08-09 21:49           ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 21:15     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Jeff King
2017-08-09 13:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-08-09 13:38     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 13:49       ` [PATCH 5/4] curl: remove ifdef'd code never used with curl >=7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-08-09 17:34   ` [PATCH 3/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:19     ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 12:36   ` Mischa POSLAWSKY
2017-08-10 17:34     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] http: #error on too-old curl Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:37   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-09 21:47   ` Jeff King
2017-08-10  9:01     ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10  9:36     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-10 21:33       ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-08-10 23:09           ` Jeff King
2017-08-11  0:17             ` Jeff King
     [not found]       ` <CAHVLzcnnrABmkYNg31Aq99NgBbyuCKEM60pHGygyjXbjmaUEYQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-14 21:50         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-10 20:33     ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 21:32       ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 22:23         ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 22:54           ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 23:17             ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 23:23               ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 23:36                 ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 0/2] http: handle curl with vendor backports Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-11 22:15                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-12  6:20                       ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-20  8:47                       ` Jeff King
2017-08-20 16:28                         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-23 15:41                           ` Jeff King
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 1/2] http: Fix handling of missing CURLPROTO_* Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-12  0:30                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-12  9:04                       ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-20  8:59                       ` Jeff King
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 2/2] http: use a feature check to enable GSSAPI delegation control Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-09 23:39   ` [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
     [not found] ` <87zib8g8ub.fsf@gmail.com>
2017-08-10 10:04   ` Dropping support for older perl Tom G. Christensen
2021-07-21 22:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and < 7.16.4 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:56   ` brian m. carlson
2021-07-22  7:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-22 22:56       ` brian m. carlson
2021-07-23  7:17         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-22  6:27   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-07-23 10:16   ` Jeff King
2021-07-23 16:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-23 16:49       ` Randall S. Becker
2021-07-24  1:19       ` Jeff King
2021-07-30  9:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] drop support for ancient curl, improve version checks Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and <= 7.16.4 (or <7.17.0) (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 17:59     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 22:28         ` Andrei Rybak
2021-09-11 14:32           ` Jeff King
2021-09-11 21:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 21:58               ` Jeff King
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and < 7.17.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 19:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 19:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 22:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 15:31       ` [PATCH 0/5] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-09 22:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 2/5] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:22           ` Jeff King
2021-09-09 23:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 14:19               ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:30                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:37                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:28                   ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:45                     ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-10 19:41                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 21:57                         ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 3/5] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2_0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:27           ` Jeff King
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 4/5] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:31           ` Jeff King
2021-09-09 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-09 19:26               ` Jeff King
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 5/5] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-09 23:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-09 23:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 19:32         ` [PATCH 0/5] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04         ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 1/8] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 14:53             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 2/8] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 14:54             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 16:56               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:46                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 3/8] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:04             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 4/8] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 5/8] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:09             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:20               ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-10 15:41                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 17:19                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 6/8] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 17:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 7/8] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:15             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 8/8] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:17             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:37           ` [PATCH v2 0/8] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:08             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:20               ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 16:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:06             ` Randall S. Becker
2021-09-10 17:42             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 17:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 19:05               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-09-10 19:49                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:47             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34           ` [PATCH v3 0/9] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 1/9] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 2/9] INSTALL: reword and copy-edit the "libcurl" section Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 3/9] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 4/9] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 5/9] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 6/9] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 7/9] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 8/9] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 9/9] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 14:46             ` [PATCH v3 0/9] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-12 19:01               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-13 14:51             ` [PATCH v4 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 1/9] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 2/9] INSTALL: reword and copy-edit the "libcurl" section Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 3/9] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 4/9] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 5/9] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 6/9] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 7/9] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 8/9] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 9/9] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 17:02               ` [PATCH v4 0/9] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-13 17:41                 ` Junio C Hamano

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