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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Handle PuTTY (plink/tortoiseplink) even in GIT_SSH_COMMAND
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 12:07:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqr33hoetx.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1485950225.git.johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:57:41 +0100 (CET)")

Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> It is quite preposterous to call this an "iteration" of the patch
> series, because the code is so different now. I say this because I want
> to caution that this code has not been tested as thoroughly, by far, as
> the first iteration.
>
> The primary purpose of code review is correctness, everything else is
> either a consequence of it, or a means to make reviewing easier.

You are utterly wrong here.

The primary purpose of code review is to spot and correct the
problems the submitter has missed.  The problems can span from
stupid bugs that affect correctness to maintainability, to design
mistakes, to clarity of explanation for both end users and future
developers.

Among them, correctness problems are, as long as the problem to be
solved is specified clearly enough, the easiest to spot by the
submitter before the patch is sent out.  The submitter is focused on
solving one problem, and if the updated code does not even work as
the submitter advertises it would, that can be caught by the
submitter before the patch is even sent out.  

Of course, humans are not perfect, and catching correctness problems
is important, but that is not the only (let alone primary) thing.

When a submitter has been focusing on solving one problem, it is
easy to lose the larger picture and to end up adding something that
may be "correct" (in the sense of "works as advertised by the
submitter") but does not fit well with the rest of the system, or
covers some use cases but misses other important and related use
cases.  If the "does not fit well" surfaces to the end user level,
that would become a design problem.  If it affects the future
developers, that would become a maintainability problem.

Compared to the correctness issue, these are much harder to spot by
the submitter alone, who focused so intensely to get his code
"correct".  The review process is of greater value to spot these
issues.

I've already read and commented on the series; as I said, I think
the rewrite in 3/4 makes the resulting code much easier to read, and
with the fix-up I just sent out, I think the end result is correct,
works as advertised, the way it is advertised is clear to end users,
and is maintainable.  

But I do share your uneasiness about the "new-ness" of the code.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-01 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-02 12:09 [PATCH] connect: handle putty/plink also in GIT_SSH_COMMAND Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-08  2:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-09  1:08   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-09  7:46     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-09  9:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-09 11:13         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-09 14:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-25 12:34             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-25 22:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-25 22:37                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-26 14:45                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-25 22:40                 ` Jeff King
2017-01-25 23:25                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-26 12:01                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-26 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Handle PuTTY (plink/tortoiseplink) even " Johannes Schindelin
     [not found] ` <cover.1485442231.git.johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
2017-01-26 14:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] connect: handle putty/plink also " Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-26 14:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] connect: rename tortoiseplink and putty variables Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] connect: Add the envvar GIT_SSH_VARIANT and ssh.variant config Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-26 19:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-27 10:35       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-27 18:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 12:01         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 16:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Handle PuTTY (plink/tortoiseplink) even in GIT_SSH_COMMAND Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 12:01     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] connect: handle putty/plink also " Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 12:01     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] connect: rename tortoiseplink and putty variables Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 12:01     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] git_connect(): factor out SSH variant handling Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 12:01     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] connect: Add the envvar GIT_SSH_VARIANT and ssh.variant config Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 19:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 19:46         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 22:24           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 22:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 22:42               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 22:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-01 23:07                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 20:07     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-02-01 22:17       ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Handle PuTTY (plink/tortoiseplink) even in GIT_SSH_COMMAND Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-01 22:55         ` Junio C Hamano

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