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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] config doc: unify the description of fsck.* and receive.fsck.*
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 12:05:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqr2ltetcy.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACBZZX5mSj2=JXtVPrPZ8Y1gCyu9p+EMYoSPeFZtuvm3FsdLNg@mail.gmail.com> ("Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason"'s message of "Mon, 28 May 2018 18:44:25 +0200")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>> If the project has some tool constraints and have to accept new
>> "broken" objects on ongoing basis, then fsck.<msg-id> facility may
>> make sense, but that is probably a very narrow special use case.
>
> That makes sense. I'll reword this bit.
> ...
> I'll try to clarify this, but I think we really should have some bit
> there about historical tools. Realistically no new git tools produce
> these, so the user needs to be made aware of what the trade-off of
> turning these on is.
>
> The reality of that is that these objects are exceedingly rare, and
> mostly found in various old repositories. Something like that need to
> be mentioned so the user can weigh the trade-off of turning this on.

Rare or not, once we say "avoid fsck.<msg-id> unless you have a good
reason not to", wouldn't that be sufficient?  

Between "fsck.<msg-id> makes sense only when you use these rare and
you-probably-never-heard-of tools ongoing basis" and "when you
already have (slightly)broken objects, naming each of them in
skiplist, rather than covering the class, is better because you want
*new* instances of the same breakage", I'd imagine the latter would be
more helpful.

In any case, let's see if there are more input to this topic and
then wrap it up in v3 ;-)

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-30  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-24 15:25 BUG: No way to set fsck.<msg-id> when cloning Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 15:58 ` Kevin Daudt
2018-05-24 17:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 19:02     ` Jeff King
2018-05-24 19:35       ` [PATCH 0/4] fsck: doc fixes & fetch.fsck.* implementation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-30 22:13             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 01/10] receive.fsck.<msg-id> tests: remove dead code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 19:45               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 22:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 02/10] config doc: don't describe *.fetchObjects twice Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 03/10] config doc: unify the description of fsck.* and receive.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:29             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 04/10] config doc: elaborate on what transfer.fsckObjects does Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:41             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 05/10] config doc: elaborate on fetch.fsckObjects security Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-28 14:09               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 06/10] transfer.fsckObjects tests: untangle confusing setup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 07/10] fetch: implement fetch.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 20:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 21:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-30 14:58             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-30 15:06               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 08/10] fsck: test & document {fetch,receive}.fsck.* config fallback Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 21:28             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 09/10] fsck: add stress tests for fsck.skipList Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 14:37           ` [PATCH v3 10/10] fsck: test and document unknown fsck.<msg-id> values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 19:50             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 21:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-28 13:55               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-30 14:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 1/5] config doc: don't describe *.fetchObjects twice Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 21:07           ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 2/5] config doc: unify the description of fsck.* and receive.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 21:16           ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-28  9:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-28 16:44               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-30  3:05                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2018-05-30  3:39                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  7:20                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01  0:11                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 3/5] config doc: elaborate on what transfer.fsckObjects does Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 21:19           ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 4/5] config doc: mention future aspirations for transfer.fsckObjects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 20:33           ` Christian Couder
2018-05-25 19:28         ` [PATCH v2 5/5] fetch: implement fetch.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-30  3:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  7:23             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-28  9:48         ` [PATCH 0/4] fsck: doc fixes & fetch.fsck.* implementation Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 19:35       ` [PATCH 1/4] config doc: don't describe *.fetchObjects twice Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25  3:18         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 19:35       ` [PATCH 2/4] config doc: unify the description of fsck.* and receive.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 19:53         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-24 20:12           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 22:49             ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-25  2:07               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 19:35       ` [PATCH 3/4] config doc: elaborate on what transfer.fsckObjects does Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 20:15         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-25  3:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  7:32             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-24 19:35       ` [PATCH 4/4] fetch: implement fetch.fsck.* Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25  4:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 17:04 ` BUG: No way to set fsck.<msg-id> when cloning Jeff King
2018-05-24 20:48 ` Thomas Braun
2018-05-25  7:36   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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