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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Modify fetch-pack to no longer die on error?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:02:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqr1su9mbf.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200728200847.GA1019822@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:08:47 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> Just to play devil's advocate for a moment...
>
>> (Also, I think that debugging within a process is easier than debugging
>> across processes, but that might not be a concern that other people
>> share.)
>
> This is definitely true sometimes, but I think is sometimes the
> opposite. When we push things out to a sub-process, then the interface
> between the two processes has to be well-defined (e.g., writing results
> to a file with a particular format).

I agree that it forces us to be more disciplined to separate them
into two processes and clearly define the way they communicate with
each other.  When done poorly, it tends to make a bigger mess.

> That said, I think I could buy the argument that "fetch" works pretty
> well as a basic building block for users. It's pretty rare to actually
> use fetch-pack as a distinct operation. This is all a monolith vs module
> tradeoff question, and the tradeoff around modularity for fetch isn't
> that compelling.

Yup.  

The "more naive and stupid way to run them as subprocesses, just
like we do for cURL based transport" was primarily because I thought
it would be easier to get right (as the transport API and interface
has long been established) than hunting down all the callers of
die() and touch all the functions involved in the callchain.  I
won't complain or block if a harder-but-more-correct approach is
taken ;-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-29 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-24 22:38 Jonathan Tan
2020-07-24 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-24 23:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-25 21:41   ` Jeff King
2020-07-25 23:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-27 17:11       ` Jeff King
2020-07-28 19:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-07-28 20:08         ` Jeff King
2020-07-29 18:53           ` Jonathan Tan
2020-07-29 19:29             ` Jeff King
2020-07-29 19:02           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-07-29 22:55             ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Lazy fetch with subprocess Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] fetch-pack: allow NULL negotiator->add_tip Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05 19:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-07 20:53       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] fetch-pack: allow NULL negotiator->known_common Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05 20:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-05 22:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-07 20:59         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] negotiator/null: add null fetch negotiator Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] fetch: --stdin Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05 20:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-07 21:10       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-07 21:58         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-07 21:10       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] fetch: submodule config Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] fetch: only populate existing_refs if needed Jonathan Tan
2020-08-05  1:20   ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] promisor-remote: use subprocess to fetch Jonathan Tan
2020-08-11 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Lazy fetch with subprocess Jonathan Tan
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] negotiator/null: add null fetch negotiator Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 12:55     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-12 16:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-12 17:29         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] fetch: allow refspecs specified through stdin Jonathan Tan
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] fetch: avoid reading submodule config until needed Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 17:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] fetch: only populate existing_refs if needed Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 18:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] fetch-pack: do not lazy-fetch during ref iteration Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 18:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] promisor-remote: lazy-fetch objects in subprocess Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 18:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-11 22:52   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] fetch-pack: remove no_dependents code Jonathan Tan
2020-08-12 12:51   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Lazy fetch with subprocess Derrick Stolee
2020-08-18  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 " Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] negotiator/noop: add noop fetch negotiator Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] fetch: allow refspecs specified through stdin Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] fetch: avoid reading submodule config until needed Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] fetch: only populate existing_refs if needed Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] fetch-pack: do not lazy-fetch during ref iteration Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] promisor-remote: lazy-fetch objects in subprocess Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18  4:01   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] fetch-pack: remove no_dependents code Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18 19:56   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Lazy fetch with subprocess Junio C Hamano
2020-08-18 22:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-18 23:36       ` [PATCH] fixup! promisor-remote: lazy-fetch objects in subprocess Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18 23:57         ` Junio C Hamano

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