* Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
@ 2015-12-22 16:02 Junio C Hamano
2015-12-24 20:56 ` David Turner
2016-01-17 6:08 ` Michael Haggerty
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2015-12-22 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git
[Jeff King, Shawn Pearce and myself represent the Git project to the
Conservancy, and here is a request for help from us.]
We apologize that we're interrupting the usual content on this
mailing list with a fundraising message, but the non-profit home of
the Git project, Software Freedom Conservancy, is in urgent need of
your immediate support: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
Git receives a myriad of important services (see
https://sfconservancy.org/members/services/ ) from Conservancy. We
have relied on Conservancy since 2009 to provide them, and we ask
that you support them. While Git gladly contributes 10% of our
project's gross revenue to Conservancy's general fund, (while
Conservancy maintains and administers the other 90% in collaboration
with us to advance the Git project), that 10% of contributions from
all Conservancy's member projects doesn't add up to enough to even
employ one full time person, let alone the already overworked staff
of three that Conservancy has.
Conservancy's fundraiser, found at https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
, is centered around asking individuals who care about the work that
Conservancy does to donate $120/year, or just $10/month, to support the
organization. Conservancy seeks about 2,500 Supporters to continue its
current work, and 750 Supporters to continue a "bare minimum" of
services to its projects.
Here are some of the things that Conservancy does for Git that are in
the "bare minimum" category:
* Handle our Google Summer of Code payments and travel, including
handling all financial transactions with Google to receive and then
disperse the money.
* Coordinating travel reimbursements for Git contributors to attend
conferences.
* Buying and shipping hardware to Git volunteer contributors who need
it.
* Keeping the non-profit status for us so that we don't have to form
our own org and file our own paperwork.
Here are some of the services Git has received in the wider category:
* Dealing with questions from the community about the DCO and legal
issues surrounding contributions to the Git project.
* Discussing the issue of copyright governance and contributions with
large corporations who want their employees to contribute to Git
but need legal assurances or have questions relating to Git's
license or contribution policies.
* Helping us write the Git trademark policy:
https://git-scm.com/trademark , registering the trademark, and
enforcing the trademark when we need it. This assures Git users can
know that when they see something called "Git", it relates to the Git
project in some way.
* And, in fact, we do very occasionally find companies violating the
GPL on Git, and Conservancy has helped us out with that.
As you can see, Git really relies on the important work of Conservancy,
and thus the Git project leadership encourages you to choose Conservancy
as one of your charitable gifts this holiday season. (Conservancy is a
501(c)(3) charity incorporated in New York, and donations are typically
deductible on U.S. taxes.)
Please visit: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
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* Re: Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
2015-12-22 16:02 Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ Junio C Hamano
@ 2015-12-24 20:56 ` David Turner
2016-01-17 6:08 ` Michael Haggerty
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Turner @ 2015-12-24 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git
I just wanted to add that the Conservancy does really important,
thankless work on a shoestring budget. I've known Bradley and Karen
for years and I've seen how dedicated they are to keeping free software
free.
I'm a Conservancy supporter, and I hope you'll join up too!
On Tue, 2015-12-22 at 08:02 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> [Jeff King, Shawn Pearce and myself represent the Git project to the
> Conservancy, and here is a request for help from us.]
>
> We apologize that we're interrupting the usual content on this
> mailing list with a fundraising message, but the non-profit home of
> the Git project, Software Freedom Conservancy, is in urgent need of
> your immediate support: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>
> Git receives a myriad of important services (see
> https://sfconservancy.org/members/services/ ) from Conservancy. We
> have relied on Conservancy since 2009 to provide them, and we ask
> that you support them. While Git gladly contributes 10% of our
> project's gross revenue to Conservancy's general fund, (while
> Conservancy maintains and administers the other 90% in collaboration
> with us to advance the Git project), that 10% of contributions from
> all Conservancy's member projects doesn't add up to enough to even
> employ one full time person, let alone the already overworked staff
> of three that Conservancy has.
>
> Conservancy's fundraiser, found at
> https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
> , is centered around asking individuals who care about the work that
> Conservancy does to donate $120/year, or just $10/month, to support
> the
> organization. Conservancy seeks about 2,500 Supporters to continue
> its
> current work, and 750 Supporters to continue a "bare minimum" of
> services to its projects.
>
> Here are some of the things that Conservancy does for Git that are in
> the "bare minimum" category:
>
> * Handle our Google Summer of Code payments and travel, including
> handling all financial transactions with Google to receive and
> then
> disperse the money.
>
> * Coordinating travel reimbursements for Git contributors to attend
> conferences.
>
> * Buying and shipping hardware to Git volunteer contributors who
> need
> it.
>
> * Keeping the non-profit status for us so that we don't have to form
> our own org and file our own paperwork.
>
> Here are some of the services Git has received in the wider category:
>
> * Dealing with questions from the community about the DCO and legal
> issues surrounding contributions to the Git project.
>
> * Discussing the issue of copyright governance and contributions
> with
> large corporations who want their employees to contribute to Git
> but need legal assurances or have questions relating to Git's
> license or contribution policies.
>
> * Helping us write the Git trademark policy:
> https://git-scm.com/trademark , registering the trademark, and
> enforcing the trademark when we need it. This assures Git users
> can
> know that when they see something called "Git", it relates to the
> Git
> project in some way.
>
> * And, in fact, we do very occasionally find companies violating the
> GPL on Git, and Conservancy has helped us out with that.
>
>
> As you can see, Git really relies on the important work of
> Conservancy,
> and thus the Git project leadership encourages you to choose
> Conservancy
> as one of your charitable gifts this holiday season. (Conservancy is
> a
> 501(c)(3) charity incorporated in New York, and donations are
> typically
> deductible on U.S. taxes.)
>
> Please visit: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>
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* Re: Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
2015-12-22 16:02 Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ Junio C Hamano
2015-12-24 20:56 ` David Turner
@ 2016-01-17 6:08 ` Michael Haggerty
2016-01-17 15:33 ` Jeff King
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Haggerty @ 2016-01-17 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junio C Hamano, Jeff King, Shawn Pearce; +Cc: git discussion list
On 12/22/2015 05:02 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> [Jeff King, Shawn Pearce and myself represent the Git project to the
> Conservancy, and here is a request for help from us.]
>
> We apologize that we're interrupting the usual content on this
> mailing list with a fundraising message, but the non-profit home of
> the Git project, Software Freedom Conservancy, is in urgent need of
> your immediate support: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
I agree that SFC is a great and worthwhile organization and I also
encourage people who care about free and open-source software to become
supporters.
> Git receives a myriad of important services (see
> https://sfconservancy.org/members/services/ ) from Conservancy. We
> have relied on Conservancy since 2009 to provide them, and we ask
> that you support them. While Git gladly contributes 10% of our
> project's gross revenue to Conservancy's general fund, (while
> Conservancy maintains and administers the other 90% in collaboration
> with us to advance the Git project), that 10% of contributions from
> all Conservancy's member projects doesn't add up to enough to even
> employ one full time person, let alone the already overworked staff
> of three that Conservancy has.
Do we have an idea whether the Git project's 10% contribution is
covering its own costs to the SFC? 10% sounds rather low to me, given
the legal and administrative services that they provide.
Let's consider contributing more (e.g., 20%) of the Git project gross
revenue to SFC.
Michael
--
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
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* Re: Pls Support Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
2016-01-17 6:08 ` Michael Haggerty
@ 2016-01-17 15:33 ` Jeff King
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jeff King @ 2016-01-17 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Haggerty
Cc: Bradley M. Kuhn, Junio C Hamano, Shawn Pearce,
git discussion list
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 07:08:28AM +0100, Michael Haggerty wrote:
> > Git receives a myriad of important services (see
> > https://sfconservancy.org/members/services/ ) from Conservancy. We
> > have relied on Conservancy since 2009 to provide them, and we ask
> > that you support them. While Git gladly contributes 10% of our
> > project's gross revenue to Conservancy's general fund, (while
> > Conservancy maintains and administers the other 90% in collaboration
> > with us to advance the Git project), that 10% of contributions from
> > all Conservancy's member projects doesn't add up to enough to even
> > employ one full time person, let alone the already overworked staff
> > of three that Conservancy has.
>
> Do we have an idea whether the Git project's 10% contribution is
> covering its own costs to the SFC? 10% sounds rather low to me, given
> the legal and administrative services that they provide.
I'm not sure whether we have good numbers there. I think the most
"expensive" thing Conservancy does for us is legal services, most of
which has been for the Git trademark (preparing the application, helping
write the policy, dealing with requests, etc). I don't know whether they
log the hours for that or not. I've cc'd Bradley, who can probably say
more.
> Let's consider contributing more (e.g., 20%) of the Git project gross
> revenue to SFC.
I think that's a reasonable idea. We don't spend much of our money, so I
don't think it would make a big impact on Git's finances. On the other
hand, we don't _have_ much money in the first place. I think we have on
the order of $15K collected over the last several years. So another 10%
would only be $1500, or only a few hundred dollars per year.
Another option would be to give a lump-sum of Git money occasionally,
after seeing how much we have, upcoming expenses, etc. Besides a little
bit for trademark fees (to the USPTO), I think our only expense is
generally travel assistance. We have Git Merge coming up, and a couple
people have asked me about assistance to the developer's summit. So I'd
probably want to hold off on any lump-sum giving until we've allocated
that money.
We may also be able to fulfill those requests without touching Git money
at all (e.g., by asking conference sponsors to chip in for developer
travel). In general, we could also probably bring in more money by
actively soliciting donations. We haven't so far, mostly because Git
itself doesn't really do anything with the money (so there's a donation
link on the git-scm.com site, but it's not very prominent).
Last year the ticket money from Git Merge went entirely to Conservancy.
Given the number of companies that use or build around Git, I suspect
soliciting medium-to-large donations from companies would probably be
productive.
-Peff
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