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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de,
	avarab@gmail.com, nksingh85@gmail.com, ps@pks.im,
	jeffhost@microsoft.com, Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	worldhello.net@gmail.com,
	"Neeraj K. Singh" <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/14] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:11:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqpmm39xhx.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7a2a7efe6d532fc7fce1352b1dfce640cc9f2f6.1648616734.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:05:19 +0000")

"Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

> Batched fsync will fit into bulk-checkin by taking advantage of the
> plug/unplug functionality to determine the appropriate time to fsync
> and make newly-added objects available in the primary object database.
>
> * Rename 'state' variable to 'bulk_checkin_state', since we will later
>   be adding 'bulk_fsync_objdir'.  This also makes the variable easier to
>   find in the debugger, since the name is more unique.
>
> * Move the 'plugged' data member of 'bulk_checkin_state' into a separate
>   static variable. Doing this avoids resetting the variable in
>   finish_bulk_checkin when zeroing the 'bulk_checkin_state'. As-is, we
>   seem to unintentionally disable the plugging functionality the first
>   time a new packfile must be created due to packfile size limits. While
>   disabling the plugging state only results in suboptimal behavior for
>   the current code, it would be fatal for the bulk-fsync functionality
>   later in this patch series.

Paraphrasing to make sure I understand your reasoning here...

In the "plug and then perform as many changes to the repository and
finally unplug" flow, before or after this series, the "perform"
step in the middle is unaware of which "bulk_checkin_state" instance
is being used to keep track of what is done to optimize by deferring
some operations until the "unplug" time.  So bulk_checkin_state is
not there to allow us to create multiple instances of it, pass them
around to different sequences of "plug, perform, unplug".  Each of
its members is inherently a singleton, so in the extreme, we could
turn these members into separate file-scope global variables if we
wanted to.  The "plugged" bit happens to be the only one getting
ejected by this patch, because it is inconvenient to "clear" other
members otherwise.

Is that what is going on?

If it is, I am mildly opposed to the flow of thought, from at least
two reasons.  It makes it hard for the next developer to decide if
the new members they are adding should be in or out of the struct.

More importantly, I think the call of finish_bulk_checkin() we make
in deflate_to_pack() you found (and there may possibly other places
that we do so; I didn't check) may not appear to be a bug in the
original context, but it already is a bug.  And when we change the
semantics of plug-unplug to be more "transaction-like", it becomes a
more serious bug, as you said.

There is NO reason to end the ongoing transaction there inside the
while() loop that tries to limit the size of the packfile being
used.  We may want to flush the "packfile part", which may have been
almost synonymous to the entirety of bulk_checkin_state, but as you
found out, the "plugged" bit is *outside* the "packfile part", and
that makes it a bug to call finish_bulk_checkin() from there.

We should add a new function, flush_bulk_checking_packfile(), to
flush only the packfile part of the bulk_checkin_state without
affecting other things---the "plugged" bit is the only one in the
current code before this series, but it does not have to stay to be
so.  When you start plugging the loose ref transactions, you may
find it handy (this is me handwaving) to have a list of refs that
you may have to do something at "unplug" time kept in the struct,
and you do not want deflate_to_pack() affecting the ongoing
"plugged" ref operations by calling finish_bulk_checkin() and
reinitializing that list, for example.

And then we should examine existing calls to finish_bulk_checkin()
and replace the ones that should not be finishing, i.e. the ones
that wanted "flush" but called "finish".


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 175+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-15 21:30 [PATCH 0/7] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-16  5:33   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-16  7:33     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-16 16:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-16 17:59         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-16 18:10           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-16 19:50             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-16  7:31   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-16 18:21     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-17  5:48       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-16 11:50   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-03-16 19:59     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] unpack-objects: " Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 21:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for add and stash Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-20  7:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-21 14:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-21 18:28       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-21 15:47     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-21 20:14       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-21 20:18         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-22  0:13           ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-22  8:52             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-22 20:05               ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23  3:47                 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] bottom-up ns/batched-fsync & "plugging" in object-file.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] write-or-die.c: remove unused fsync_component() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  5:27                     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] unpack-objects: add skeleton HASH_N_OBJECTS{,_{FIRST,LAST}} flags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] object-file: pass down unpack-objects.c flags for "bulk" checkin Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] update-index: use a utility function for stdin consumption Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] update-index: pass down an "oflags" argument Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] update-index: rename "buf" to "line" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  3:47                   ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] update-index: make use of HASH_N_OBJECTS{,_{FIRST,LAST}} flags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23  5:51                     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23  9:48                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 20:19                         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 14:18                   ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] bottom-up ns/batched-fsync & "plugging" in object-file.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] unpack-objects: add skeleton HASH_N_OBJECTS{,_{FIRST,LAST}} flags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 20:23                       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] object-file: pass down unpack-objects.c flags for "bulk" checkin Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 20:25                       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] update-index: pass down skeleton "oflags" argument Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] update-index: have the index fsync() flush the loose objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 20:30                       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] add: use WLI_NEED_LOOSE_FSYNC for new "only the index" bulk fsync() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] fsync docs: update for new syncing semantics Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 14:18                     ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] fsync docs: add new fsyncMethod.batch.quarantine, elaborate on old Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-23 21:08                       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-21 17:30     ` [PATCH v2 2/7] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Junio C Hamano
2022-03-21 20:23       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 13:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-24  2:04       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-21 15:01     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-21 22:09       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-21 23:16         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-21 17:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-21 22:18       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] unpack-objects: " Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-21 17:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-21 23:02       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-22 20:54         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-20  7:15   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-21 18:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-22  5:54       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-20  7:16   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for add and stash Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-21 17:03   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects Junio C Hamano
2022-03-21 18:14     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-21 20:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24  4:58   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] bulk-checkin: rebrand plug/unplug APIs as 'odb transactions' Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24 16:10       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-24 17:52         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] object-file: pass filename to fsync_or_die Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24 18:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24 20:25         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-24 21:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24 22:21             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] unpack-objects: " Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] test-lib-functions: add parsing helpers for ls-files and ls-tree Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24 16:29       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-24 18:23         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-26 15:35           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for add and stash Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] core.fsyncmethod: correctly camel-case warning message Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-24 17:44     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24 19:21       ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-29  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 00/13] " Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 01/13] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 02/13] bulk-checkin: rebrand plug/unplug APIs as 'odb transactions' Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 03/13] object-file: pass filename to fsync_or_die Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 04/13] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 05/13] cache-tree: use ODB transaction around writing a tree Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 06/13] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 07/13] unpack-objects: " Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 08/13] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 09/13] test-lib-functions: add parsing helpers for ls-files and ls-tree Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 10/13] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 11/13] t/perf: add iteration setup mechanism to perf-lib Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29 17:14         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-29 18:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 12/13] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for add and stash Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29 17:38         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-29  0:42       ` [PATCH v4 13/13] core.fsyncmethod: correctly camel-case warning message Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-29 10:47       ` [PATCH v4 00/13] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 17:09         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-29 11:45       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29 16:51         ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05       ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 01/14] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:11           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-03-30 18:34             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30 20:24               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31  4:17                 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-31 17:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31 19:08                     ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 02/14] bulk-checkin: rebrand plug/unplug APIs as 'odb transactions' Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:17           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31  5:51             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 03/14] object-file: pass filename to fsync_or_die Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-30 17:54             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 04/14] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31  6:28             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-31 18:05               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31 19:18                 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-04-01 15:56                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 05/14] cache-tree: use ODB transaction around writing a tree Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-30 19:04             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 06/14] builtin/add: add ODB transaction around add_files_to_cache Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 07/14] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 17:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-30 19:09             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 08/14] unpack-objects: " Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 09/14] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 10/14] test-lib-functions: add parsing helpers for ls-files and ls-tree Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 11/14] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30 18:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-31  3:55             ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 12/14] t/perf: add iteration setup mechanism to perf-lib Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 13/14] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for batch mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-31  4:09           ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30  5:05         ` [PATCH v5 14/14] core.fsyncmethod: correctly camel-case warning message Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 00/12] core.fsyncmethod: add 'batch' mode for faster fsyncing of multiple objects nksingh85
2022-04-06 20:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 21:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 21:54               ` Neeraj Singh
2022-05-24 12:31                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 01/12] bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' boolean nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 02/12] bulk-checkin: rebrand plug/unplug APIs as 'odb transactions' nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 03/12] core.fsyncmethod: batched disk flushes for loose-objects nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 04/12] cache-tree: use ODB transaction around writing a tree nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 05/12] builtin/add: add ODB transaction around add_files_to_cache nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 06/12] update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructure nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 07/12] unpack-objects: " nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 08/12] core.fsync: use batch mode and sync loose objects by default on Windows nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 09/12] test-lib-functions: add parsing helpers for ls-files and ls-tree nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 10/12] core.fsyncmethod: tests for batch mode nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 11/12] t/perf: add iteration setup mechanism to perf-lib nksingh85
2022-04-05  5:20         ` [PATCH v6 12/12] core.fsyncmethod: performance tests for batch mode nksingh85

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