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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>,
	"Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.keller@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] diff: improve positioning of add/delete blocks in diffs
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:59:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqoa4wu0bm.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160813085904.lykoihh4v2lf4yuj@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Sat, 13 Aug 2016 04:59:05 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> So assuming everything I just said isn't complete bollocks, I think we
> can move to a future where nobody uses the compaction heuristic. And
> there are three ways to deal with that:
>
>   1. The knob and feature stay. It might be useful for somebody who
>      wants to experiment in the future.
>
>   2. The knob and feature go away completely. It was an experiment, but
>      now we have something more useful.
>
>   3. The feature goes away, but the knob stays as noop, or maybe as an
>      alias for the indent heuristic, just because we did ship a version
>      that accepts "--compaction-heuristic", and maybe somebody somewhere
>      put it in a script?
>
> I think I'd be in favor of (2).

I am all for (2) [*1*]

This and the previous "take a blank line as a hint" are both
heuristics.  As long as the resulting code does not tax runtime
performance visibly and improves the resulting output 99% of the
time, there is no reason to leave end-users a knob.  "Among 9 hunks
in this patch that touch hello.c, 7 are made much more readable but
2 are worse" cannot even be helped with a command line option.


[Footnote]

*1* I am also strongly against (3), if only to teach people a
    lesson ;-).

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-13 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-03 22:00 [PATCH 0/8] Better heuristics make prettier diffs Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/8] xdl_change_compact(): rename some local variables for clarity Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  7:06   ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 18:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-13 19:38     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-14 12:26       ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/8] xdl_change_compact(): clarify code Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:11   ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-03 23:14     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 23:50       ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-04  7:13         ` Jeff King
2016-08-10 16:39         ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-10 16:58           ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/8] xdl_change_compact(): rename i to end Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  7:16   ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 4/8] xdl_change_compact(): do one final shift or the other, not both Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 5/8] xdl_change_compact(): fix compaction heuristic to adjust io Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  7:27   ` Jeff King
2016-08-10 16:58     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-10 17:09       ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-11  4:16       ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 18:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-10 17:13     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 6/8] xdl_change_compact(): keep track of the earliest end Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04 18:46   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-10 17:16     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 7/8] is_blank_line: take a single xrecord_t as argument Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04 18:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 22:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] diff: improve positioning of add/delete blocks in diffs Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:29   ` Jacob Keller
2016-08-03 22:36     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  4:47       ` Jacob Keller
2016-08-04 19:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-10 19:01         ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-10 21:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 22:30   ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-03 22:41     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:51       ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-03 23:30         ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  0:04           ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-10 19:12             ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  7:56   ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 16:55     ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-04 19:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-13  0:09       ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-12 23:25     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-13  8:59       ` Jeff King
2016-08-13 15:59         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-08-14  7:21           ` Jacob Keller
2016-08-15  6:33         ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-15 20:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-04 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-13  0:11     ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-03 22:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] Better heuristics make prettier diffs Michael Haggerty
2016-08-04  7:38 ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 19:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-04 20:01     ` Jeff King

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