From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BF01F597 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 21:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728329AbeGTWO5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 18:14:57 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f67.google.com ([209.85.221.67]:39762 "EHLO mail-wr1-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727602AbeGTWO5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 18:14:57 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f67.google.com with SMTP id h10-v6so12436873wre.6 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=oqiueJd9HHq71Frk/QxVYQ99iPD1wirkwHy/U+hzCBU=; b=LpskpdN8aLlDWWZREFRTakObtSetu6+KgD3SbIwYOdiXfqC2T/yiHy3s6S9yq2j0PU Uu5zQ+8V68jtBSF8w1yt+kP3kS0XZefy3yYDXGPwQoYqhtl0I/OO6Y9Fntvl9vJSLlH+ rB98VAXdG1Wj18PGm0Rd8E80FDsN8oB/BQ5IXDYkFZwX8wexd7nNJ0EVl9LfYbtKrLsU xyBJpVMEdRy7E2F70Jn5nGaKPQ+s5SfwtDp89UAnLzDVlTZN7NpJ/7HUALg2ME8SCQHg AbIl+d0DzdDW0awnbRMi6dn4kVkoUrzp+TUMib06swjG5y3+hLZWiDY/zP+RDKmJFvig 2N8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=oqiueJd9HHq71Frk/QxVYQ99iPD1wirkwHy/U+hzCBU=; b=SfizLHBN8DCPH0fFm0tYlFBC+CjGZmc6bvBXSEzLix+JBt1ZqgvoI3rtvJcZSyIyZ5 XgkxnBnPKXTywb6L4FhjlGriUn05bcDkL2Q/l5uWRSS5HSoMXFW5r7Tg4SckVN2zsFOa BPUjfOcKllCANGHAxBTcQ0h3BEhTp6bfljV1+KlLf4uppeGMdOwClNVtJquqDPatbJuy FSXOQaAmUvZ41GR6/tQHVCTlF8VpdhCRUuRcbgPRZkB4TahmII/TLrTb6etl1msgIJR5 ivRB0sW6j4Olyq9S5ixsFuoqNwxKH/0hXUiJmdsgjMUx+rdDtCTNFypZlMXwbeVQPH43 49YQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFueMmMSgvddZuYrKZNdwlNC045h6Y2yt74HVsAvHwAOt/F8Eek JqhIBDU7j9tEnsIpO+XNfgQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfd55A89O9i7nLbejHZiyPuVatMSidO1OGhuAK/bg7FSDQ2RbhxfIwXaRPusBsXkSDLQhZNrw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:bacf:: with SMTP id w15-v6mr2588682wrg.203.1532121891843; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (112.68.155.104.bc.googleusercontent.com. [104.155.68.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s10-v6sm3657386wmb.12.2018.07.20.14.24.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Stefan Beller Cc: Johannes Schindelin , gitgitgadget@gmail.com, git Subject: Re: refs/notes/amlog problems, was Re: [PATCH v3 01/20] linear-assignment: a function to solve least-cost assignment problems References: <39272eefcfe66de3ca1aa2ee43d6626ce558caae.1530617166.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:24:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Beller's message of "Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:20:04 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Stefan Beller writes: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:35 PM Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> It is not like anybody (including me) needs realtime up-to-date > > I thought the same for a long time, but contributing to other projects > showed me that this is not necessarily the case. Having a real time > update, even if it would be just "your patch is labeled 'under discussion'" > is beneficial as I would know where it is "in the system". Well, you wouldn't have an access to the up-to-date amlog maintained by me *UNTIL* I push it out at the end of the day. So by definition, you do not have real-time access to the up-to-date state. And also by definition, you do not *NEED* such an access, because you won't see newly created or rewritten commits, whose originating Message-Id is not in the copy of amlog you have (yet), until I push the day's integration result out *AND* you fetch what I pushed out.