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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>, Carlo Arenas <carenas@gmail.com>,
	Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>,
	Thomas Gummerer <t.gummerer@gmail.com>,
	GIT Mailing-list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] range-diff: fix some 'hdr-check' and sparse warnings
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:01:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqo91t3itl.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190715181527.GA30747@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:15:27 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> But I'd be happy if we could address it in another way (e.g., convincing
> sparse to stop complaining about it, or just decide it's not worth
> dealing with). One other thing I haven't seen discussed in this thread:
> we could actually make our preferred style be for all structs to define
> a FOO_INIT initializer, like we already do for STRBUF_INIT, etc. That's
> a much more heavyweight solution than what's being discussed here, but
> it comes with an extra benefit: it's easy to catch and change all users
> if the struct switches away from zero-initialization.

I'd rather not to go that route.  When we say

	static struct foo foo;

we are happy with the natural and trivial zero initialization of the
structure.  If we didn't have to say STRBUF_INIT, the codebase would
have been a lot nicer with less noise. Because the implementation of
the strbuf cannot take the trivial zero initialized state as a valid
one, we had to sprinkle " = STRBUF_INIT;" all over.

And that "quiet and nice" form is a moral equivalent of

	struct foo foo = { 0 };

that has been discussed in this thread.  I'd rather not to see it
turned into distinct FOO_INIT, BAR_INIT, etc. to force the reader to
think these structures all need their specific initialization and
wonder what's the reason for each of them.

One universal "struct foo foo = STRUCT_ZERO_INIT;" that is applied
to all kinds of structure I could live with (but only if we have a
good way to squelch sparse from bitching about it).  Perhaps we
could define it as "{}" for GCC, while keeping it "{ 0 }" for
others.  As I said, { 0 } is undefensible if we insist that a null
pointer must be spelled NULL and not 0 (as CodingGuidelines says),
but as long as we declare that we take "{ 0 }" as a mere convention
(like we used to use the "int foo = foo;" convention to squelch
"uninitialized but used" warnings) that is outside the purview of
language-lawyers, I am perfectly fine with it, and if it is hidden
behind a macro, that would be even better ;-)




  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-16 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 22:03 [PATCH] range-diff: fix some 'hdr-check' and sparse warnings Ramsay Jones
2019-07-12  5:21 ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-12 16:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-13 10:44     ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-13 12:18       ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-13 12:56       ` Carlo Arenas
2019-07-13 21:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-13 22:22         ` Carlo Arenas
2019-07-14  0:51           ` Jeff King
2019-07-14  8:30             ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-15 14:46               ` Jeff King
2019-07-15 17:30                 ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-15 18:15                   ` Jeff King
2019-07-16 19:01                     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2019-07-16 20:01                       ` Jeff King
2019-07-17 18:13                         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-17 19:21                           ` Jeff King
2019-07-17 20:10                             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-17 17:23                       ` Johannes Sixt
2019-07-15 14:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-10-02 17:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-04 18:35               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-07-14  8:15         ` Johannes Sixt

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