From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7FA1F487 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726968AbgCXXk3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:40:29 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com ([64.147.108.71]:64298 "EHLO pb-smtp2.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726212AbgCXXk3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:40:29 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2BF4D274; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:40:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=NQckaZ1s54amD6UWeOS+7oqOix4=; b=ZegvsB U/8A2cWxDes6u6rklGDwIsB7ooOfxCsCH/P3rFp9KQlVWU3sGrEiSYRlxeR0dUaH SauOf+WiPNou+M3qsx6+WM4lj0ecu140YxVc9+xn+fkGLxHtO23eUjnBejzkFc+T WRU4wVghlm6WZLpISXwXoHGaXAlg2A0pQKXp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=Szr+7m1paV15NOYjoUuUkpjxWGRcr0kB AJuqycfybV5dpWpvCL/7Usjo0K5xgz2JSMF2J6SaNEjd+oNm1RGY+RFPUicifthT U8OW59lzenP7/WtU9KmGCTsIeXxzkcI5HuMtBwbhqa2S0j6vEyRqDRB2V1/BRycz yflrn9fVGDM= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592F4D273; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:40:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.74.119.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B028C4D271; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:40:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] tests(gpg): allow the gpg-agent to start on Windows In-Reply-To: (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:26:36 +0100 (CET)") References: <287a21f1033b2a74420029c529ad4db956051a85.1584968990.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:40:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: D6A8C6D2-6E28-11EA-8BF9-D1361DBA3BAF-77302942!pb-smtp2.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Johannes Schindelin writes: > Hi Junio, > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> Johannes Schindelin writes: >> >> > I fear that this distinction really is lost on anybody who does not have >> > to deal with MSYS2 on Windows. >> > ... >> > In short: I am convinced that this is a subtlety in our test suite that we >> > cannot reasonably expect any contributors other than Windows-based ones to >> > get right, and I am fairly certain that we will just have to keep >> > monitoring the CI/PR builds for similar issues and then help the >> > contributors by suggesting the appropriate fixes. >> >> IOW, this cannot be made an engineering problem and has to stay a >> black art? ;-) >> >> That's somewhat sad, but I guess we have to live with it. > > I am afraid so. As long as there are our users on Windows, we can trust that we'd have some folks who are as familiar as you are with these subtleties, even if you may get bored working on it yourself, leaving us with the right bus factor, right? ;-) Thanks.