From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281C81F4B4 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726222AbgIPWEJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:04:09 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:54299 "EHLO pb-smtp21.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726193AbgIPWEF (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:04:05 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83AEE6E4B; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:25:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=ZQt/vKL18kdokN87gsYUmIGPyEY=; b=ioulUY E23rwWj3eArJF5ONYnhUGzuVZJFA5Ve4yZ4aw580Fa+zKUmsGuuibSx0zreZUAra Fj1ua2Q9dPe1jJxXeARHLxlXUt/9iP8njf1565DEO7BTfw+EM4pGGrhmFStkwf/U dIYmlW6qaIGjwMSvJwZthJNDwmtqv4U91aMfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=MPukhR8Svpm5VzTJFwFA9YUl8ttzCmv7 OzHQk1hsgWEJeY1yf8Err1e874oe+CA2DQLG9bP4PmuX2X3sEIpW4btbsPHFuc1Y 9L7sjQ1pbbgAyfe+IrhcZgV80J41DBqPrASS67F2Y1Cyg4ddc9/0S4YPzK/jjM3G cm3Ss0wJMEc= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7BE6E4A; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:25:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.75.7.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4A1FE6E49; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:25:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: "Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] t/test-terminal: avoid non-inclusive language References: <3b4ae48d4a3a7e2d6aae259ead19b6643d2533e8.1600279853.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:25:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:05:30 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 2D87ACE2-F863-11EA-A98C-843F439F7C89-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Junio C Hamano writes: > "Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" > writes: > >> From: Johannes Schindelin >> >> In the ongoing effort to make the Git project a more inclusive place, >> let's try to avoid names like "master" where possible. > > The two sides of a PTY are called 'master' and 'slave', and I > understand there is a push to move away from these words, but > calling one side with an invented name that is used by nobody else > in the context of talking about PTY, while keeping the word used to > call the other side, would lead to confusion. > > A better change is to drop "master_" altogether without replacing > the word with anything, and call them just "input", "output" and > "error". If we really want to use a replacement word for 'master' instead of just dropping, I may be inclined to suggest 'parent', in the hope that PTY implementors will start following what Python folks are doing, at which time they will give us a synonym for 'slave' method called 'child' we can use.