From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0198E1F66F for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 22:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732636AbgKEWJN (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:09:13 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com ([64.147.108.70]:59250 "EHLO pb-smtp1.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1731508AbgKEWJM (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5994B9180F; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:09:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=0AZ+48zo9FmFI6xawAWLCbp7yPY=; b=iJd/Ix aHYacMs2aegNdcN5ZUh3x3EOjbuZ3rIWpesh6+4dGhF+LNzczRiodv0C6KczCn3H /iJGr6P0BN/0QNH+pek8PZtXwZxB660DZ6mC0+oopva4z8eZxJc9txO60kdK8TiN ji1oO2L8yrRMTmrpDAbTuorFEb1CAvYDpuLIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=Y6YGroTwUFVXmoa9Y5BGaeTEvfsLvUtV JGGXhabCWfA+DC4OYIvgDF+Bvsd3qzlGfkFZkp8RmV9/fBoHzSuAJumZ9t5hLvT4 2YO6B3Y7dmq9U8gzEo2oXMWoiP+C8OqrwGYGK+i1SAZQVI95sNnI0Bms2CYlYFj2 efNlNU2hpfM= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1759180D; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:09:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.75.7.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DAF79180B; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:09:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Stefan Haller , Git , SZEDER =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A1bor?= , =?utf-8?B?Tmd1?= =?utf-8?B?eeG7hW4gVGjDoWkgTmfhu41j?= Duy Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] completion: a bunch of updates References: <20190621223107.8022-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <0ec43318-bf83-25c4-a817-a150e2e47546@haller-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:09:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Felipe Contreras's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 2020 19:09:13 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 8631C43C-1FB3-11EB-BC25-D152C8D8090B-77302942!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Felipe Contreras writes: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:08 PM Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> But the take-away I got from your short quote was that I see no >> evidence that Zsh folks do not care about usability. > > This exchange happened 9 years ago, so I wouldn't place too much of a > burden on what they actually meant by what they said. In other words, you are now saying that it does not demonstrate your earlier claim that they do not care about usability at all? > Even if my interpretation of what they said at that point of time is > 100% incorrect; it's not a *derogatory* statement; it would simply be > an unfactual statement. So, the short quote given without much context was an attempt to mislead those who are reading this discussion? That sounds even worse to me. In any case, so far you managed to convince me even less that it would help the Zsh userbase to carry a "by default has to fall behind" copy of what they can get, or their distro packagers can package, the latest and greatest directly from your github repository as part of the release of this project. Thanks, and bye for now.