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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, vdye@github.com, shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] sparse-index: complete partial expansion
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 11:01:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqmtf8ruul.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9abea8d-5386-5275-4de2-27d443945c7a@github.com> (Derrick Stolee's message of "Mon, 23 May 2022 09:18:43 -0400")

Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> writes:

> As I went to remove these from sparse-index.c, I found another that
> exists, but for good reason. See 8a96b9d0a (sparse-index: use
> WRITE_TREE_MISSING_OK, 2021-09-08), which explains that that instance
> needs the flag because it could be used during 'git add'.

Hmph, re-reading that explanation, it appears to me that it is
working around a lack of another option that could be useful in such
a situation, namely, "update the cache tree, and if a tree object is
missing then create one locally; do not bother asking any promisor
remote".  I am reasonably sure that back when I invented missing-ok
there wasn't any such thing as "promisor remote" or "lazy fetch",
and it sounds like those who added "promissor remote" broke the
cache-tree subsystem by introducing calls to fetch from elsewhere?

How does a normal "new object creation" codepath work when promisor
remotes exist?  Does write_object_file() first ask if any promisor
remote have that object and fetch before creating one locally?  That
sounds absurd (i.e. if we have data to create locally why ask others
if they have one already?).  Why should cache-tree behave any
differently?

All of the above are mere observations on changes that have nothing
to do with the change in this series, but cache_tree_update()
knowing about promisor remotes feels serious breakage to me.

> It still isn't necessary in the instances being added here, so I will
> remove them.

OK.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16 18:11 [PATCH 0/8] Sparse index: integrate with sparse-checkout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] sparse-index: create expand_to_pattern_list() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 20:36   ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-16 20:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 2/8] sparse-index: introduce partially-sparse indexes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] cache-tree: implement cache_tree_find_path() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] sparse-checkout: --no-sparse-index needs a full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] sparse-index: partially expand directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 20:36   ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] sparse-index: complete partial expansion Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 20:38   ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-17 13:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] p2000: add test for 'git sparse-checkout [add|set]' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] sparse-checkout: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 20:38   ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-17 13:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-19 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Sparse index: integrate with sparse-checkout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] t1092: refactor 'sparse-index contents' test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] t1092: stress test 'git sparse-checkout set' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] sparse-index: create expand_to_pattern_list() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 19:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20 18:01       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] sparse-index: introduce partially-sparse indexes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 20:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20 18:05       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-20 18:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] cache-tree: implement cache_tree_find_path() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 20:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20 18:13       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] sparse-checkout: --no-sparse-index needs a full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 20:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] sparse-index: partially expand directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-20 18:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20 18:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] sparse-index: complete partial expansion Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21  7:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23 13:13       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-23 13:18         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-23 18:01           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-05-23 22:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 14:26           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-25 16:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] p2000: add test for 'git sparse-checkout [add|set]' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 17:52   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] sparse-checkout: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Sparse index: integrate with sparse-checkout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 01/10] t1092: refactor 'sparse-index contents' test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 02/10] t1092: stress test 'git sparse-checkout set' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 03/10] sparse-index: create expand_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 04/10] sparse-index: introduce partially-sparse indexes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 05/10] cache-tree: implement cache_tree_find_path() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 06/10] sparse-checkout: --no-sparse-index needs a full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 07/10] sparse-index: partially expand directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 08/10] sparse-index: complete partial expansion Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 09/10] p2000: add test for 'git sparse-checkout [add|set]' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-05-23 13:48     ` [PATCH v3 10/10] sparse-checkout: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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