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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,  git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 05:22:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqle6unpmt.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZelfOQ-XvvOpaOzi@tanuki> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Thu, 7 Mar 2024 07:31:21 +0100")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 06:46:33PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 09:06:08AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> > Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>> > >   - `git config --get-urlmatch` -> `git config get-urlmatch`.
>> >
>> > ... is a Meh to me, personally.  I'd not actively push it
>> > enthusiastically, but I'd passively accept its existence.
>> 
>> I don't have strong feelings about this, but I wonder if `--urlmatch`
>> (or `--url-match`) might be an argument to the "get" mode of this
>> sub-command instead. Something like `git config get --urlmatch` feels
>> much more natural to me than `git config get-urlmatch`.
>
> Agreed. I allude to this somewhere in the patch series that I only see
> this as a first incremental step, and that some of the subcommands
> really should be converted to become options eventually. Specifically:
>
>     - `git config get-urlmatch` -> `git config get --urlmatch`
>
>     - `git config get-regexp` -> `git config get --regexp`
>
>     - `git config get-all` -> `git config get --all`
>  
>     - `git config set-all` -> `git config set --all`
>
>     - `git config unset-all` -> `git config unset --all`
>
> I didn't yet do it as part of this patch series because I didn't want to
> make functional changes at the same time (well, except of course for the
> introduction of subcommands). But if we all agree that this patch series
> is something we want _and_ that we don't want to have an intermediate
> step with the above somewhat weird subcommands then I would be happy to
> pile onto the series.
>
> I wouldn't think that keeping this intermediate step would be too bad
> though. While we would eventually omit the above subcommands, the infra
> to keep them around needs to stay anyway to support old syntax like
> `--get-all`. Thus, we can keep the subcommands themselves almost for
> free even if we eventually decide to hide them and replace them with
> flags.

The "more involved" changes along the lines Taylor suggested take
some thought in designing the end-user experience, so even if you do
not initially plan to support them in the implementation, it would
be better to know how the final command line should look like before
starting, so that we won't surprise users, if anything.

The trickies I anticipate offhand are:

 * The urlmatch thing wants name and URL.  In the new syntax, I
   think the URL part should become an option parameter to the --url
   option.  E.g. a request with the current UI

    $ git config --get-urlmatch SECTION.VARIABLE URL

   would become

    $ git config get --url=URL SECTION.VARIABLE

 * The color thing takes the default value to be used when
   unconfigured.  That should also become an option parameter to the
   --default option.

    $ git config --get-color SECTION.VARIABLE DEFAULT

   would become

    $ git config get --type=color --default=DEFAULT SECTION.VARIABLE

   Similarly for --tty=true/false used in --get-colorbool.

 * Now, these extended ones with options introduce possibilities to
   combine them in ways that weren't possible before.  For example,
   "--get" and "--get-all" are distinct, and there is no way to tell
   "--get-urlmatch" to give all values that would match, but it is
   plausible that we may want to handle

    $ git config get --all --url=URL SECTION.VARIABLE

   to do so.  A more interesting one is the --default=DEFAULT
   option.  What we currently write

    $ git config --get no.such.variable || echo 'default value'

   can become

    $ git config get --default='default value' no.such.variable

HTH.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-06 11:31 [PATCH 0/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 23:52   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  7:02     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] builtin/config: move modes into separate functions Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 5/8] builtin/config: track subcommands by action Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 21:54   ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2024-03-07  6:37     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07  0:10   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  6:36     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 6/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 21:38   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-03-07  7:14     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 7/8] t1300: exercise both old- and new-style modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:32 ` [PATCH 8/8] Documentation/git-config: update to new-style syntax Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07  6:57   ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-07  7:33     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 17:06 ` [PATCH 0/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Junio C Hamano
2024-03-06 23:46   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-06 23:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-07  0:13       ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  0:31     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-07  6:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07 13:22       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-03-06 22:49 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-11 23:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:19   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:19   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-13  2:45     ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  8:42       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-13  3:11     ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  8:42       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 13/13] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 01/13] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 02/13] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 03/13] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 04/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 05/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 06/13] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 07/13] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 08/13] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 09/13] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 10/13] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 11/13] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 12/13] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:47   ` [PATCH v3 13/13] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:53   ` [PATCH v3 00/13] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  9:16     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 01/14] config: clarify memory ownership when preparing comment strings Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 10:13     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 02/14] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 03/14] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 12:28     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06  9:34       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 04/14] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 05/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 06/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 13:08     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 13:13       ` rsbecker
2024-05-03 16:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  7:51           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 17:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06 18:33               ` rsbecker
2024-05-06 18:45                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-07  6:20                 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-05-06 21:33               ` Git 3.0? Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07  4:18                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07  4:02               ` [PATCH v4 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  7:58       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 11:26         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 08/14] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 09/14] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 10/14] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 11/14] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 12/14] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 13/14] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 14/14] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 13:36   ` [PATCH v4 00/14] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Dragan Simic
2024-05-03 16:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  8:55 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:55   ` [PATCH v5 01/14] config: clarify memory ownership when preparing comment strings Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 02/14] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 03/14] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 04/14] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 05/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 06/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 08/14] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 09/14] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 10/14] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 11/14] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 12/14] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 13/14] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 14/14] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 11:30   ` [PATCH v5 00/14] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06 20:21   ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06 20:38     ` rsbecker
2024-05-07  4:07       ` Patrick Steinhardt

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