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Hamano's message of "Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:30:47 -0700") References: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:41:19 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 9B21872A-01C2-11EF-913B-78DCEB2EC81B-77302942!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Junio C Hamano writes: > As I said, I do think it is rare for us to start with only "ideas" > without anything concrete to comment on, and that is why I asked > some references (e.g., URLs into the archive) to a discussion in the > past of a larger decisions where (1) something is proposed, (2) > discussed, and (3) declaration that a consensus has reached, if a > document describes the status quo. FYI, what I readily recall was the discussion that started here. https://lore.kernel.org/git/20170304011251.GA26789@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com/ It did have a few iterations and then near the end the consensus has turned into a "patch" that adds the design document to our history, but otherwise, it did not involve a "series" level patch reviews. HTH..