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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] protocol v2
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:10:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqioekf629.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1503011707040.12474@nftneq.ynat.uz> (David Lang's message of "Sun, 1 Mar 2015 17:09:12 -0800 (PST)")

David Lang <david@lang.hm> writes:

> how would these approaches be affected by a client that is pulling
> from different remotes into one local repository? For example, pulling
> from the main kernel repo and from the -stable repo.
>
> David Lang

As I said in $gmane/264000, which the above came from:

    Note that the above would work if and only if we accept that it
    is OK to send objects between the remote tracking branches the
    fetcher has (i.e. the objects it last fetched from the server)
    and the current tips of branches the server has, without
    optimizing by taking into account that some commits in that set
    may have already been obtained by the fetcher from a
    third-party.

The scheme tries go gain by reducing the ref advertisement cost by
sacrificing the optimization opportunity when you fetch from updated
Linus's tree after having fetched from a recent next tree, the
latter of which may have contained a lot of objects that went to the
Linus's tree since you fetched from Linus's the last time.  The
current protocol, by negotiating what you have (including the
objects you obtained from sideways via 'next') with the Linus's
tree, allows the server to compute a minimum packfile customized
just for you.  By trading that off with "everybody that follow this
repository will get the same set of packfiles in sequence trickled
into his repository" model, it would instead allow the server to
prepare these packfiles thousands of clients that follow Linus's
tree will want only once.

The client-server pair may want to have a negociation mechanism
(e.g. "I may have many objects I fetched from sideways, give me
minimum pack that is customized for me by spending cycles---I am
willing to wait until you finish computing it" vs "I am just
following along and not doing anything fancy, just give me the same
thing as everybody else") to select what optimization they want to
use.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-02  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24  3:12 [RFC/PATCH 0/3] protocol v2 Stefan Beller
2015-02-24  3:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] Document protocol capabilities extension Stefan Beller
2015-02-24  3:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] receive-pack: add advertisement of different protocol options Stefan Beller
2015-02-24  3:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] receive-pack: enable protocol v2 Stefan Beller
2015-02-24  4:02 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] " Duy Nguyen
2015-02-24  5:40   ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-24  6:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-24 23:37     ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-25 12:44       ` Duy Nguyen
2015-02-25 18:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-26  7:31           ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-26 10:15             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-02-26 20:08               ` Stefan Beller
     [not found]                 ` <CACsJy8DOS_999ZgW7TqsH-dkrUFpjZf0TFQeFUt9s0bNhHY0Bw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-27 22:20                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-26 20:13               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-27  1:26                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-27  2:15                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-27 23:05                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-27 23:44                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-28  0:33                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-28  0:46                       ` Stefan Beller
2015-02-28  1:01                         ` [RFC/PATCH 0/5] protocol v2 for upload-pack Stefan Beller
2015-02-28  1:01                           ` [RFC/PATCH 1/5] upload-pack: only accept capabilities on the first "want" line Stefan Beller
2015-02-28  1:01                           ` [RFC/PATCH 2/5] upload-pack: support out of band client capability requests Stefan Beller
2015-02-28  7:47                             ` Kyle J. McKay
2015-02-28 11:22                               ` Duy Nguyen
2015-02-28 22:36                                 ` Kyle J. McKay
2015-03-01  0:11                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2015-02-28 11:36                             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-02-28  1:01                           ` [RFC/PATCH 3/5] connect.c: connect to a remote service with some flags Stefan Beller
2015-02-28 11:11                             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2015-03-01  3:22                             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-28  1:01                           ` [RFC/PATCH 4/5] daemon.c: accept extra service arguments Stefan Beller
2015-03-01  3:39                             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-02-28  1:01                           ` [RFC/PATCH 5/5] WIP/Document the http protocol change Stefan Beller
2015-02-28 12:26                             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-01  9:11                           ` [RFC/PATCH 0/5] protocol v2 for upload-pack Johannes Sixt
2015-03-02  2:58                             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-02  3:47                         ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] protocol v2 Junio C Hamano
2015-03-02  9:21                           ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-02  9:24                             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-03 10:33                             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-03 17:13                               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-03 19:47                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-04  1:54                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-04  4:27                                   ` Shawn Pearce
2015-03-04 12:05                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-04 19:10                                       ` Shawn Pearce
2015-03-05  1:03                                         ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-05 16:03                                           ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-24 17:42                                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-24 18:00                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-06 23:38                             ` [PATCH] protocol upload-pack-v2 Stefan Beller
2015-03-06 23:40                               ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-06 23:55                               ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-07  0:00                               ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-07  0:28                               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-07  4:28                                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-07  5:21                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-08 20:36                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-31 19:58                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-02 12:37                                       ` Duy Nguyen
2015-04-02 14:45                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-02 22:18                                       ` Martin Fick
2015-04-02 22:58                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-02 23:00                                         ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-02 23:14                                           ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-10  1:38                               ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-10 19:36                                 ` Kyle J. McKay
2015-02-28  0:07                   ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] protocol v2 Duy Nguyen
2015-02-28  0:26                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-01  8:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-01 11:32       ` Duy Nguyen
2015-03-01 19:56         ` Stefan Beller
2015-03-02  1:05           ` David Lang
2015-03-01 23:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-02  1:09           ` David Lang
2015-03-02  3:10             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-03-01 23:06       ` Philip Oakley
2015-03-02  9:32         ` Duy Nguyen

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