From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AE91F5A1 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 23:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729590AbgAXXos (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:44:48 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:58121 "EHLO pb-smtp21.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729557AbgAXXos (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:44:48 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693669FEB0; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=aqJ4AaJ/clXz mMhXlF7zloPJk8c=; b=W8+eNAv9VcLKimczwvE4KmsJCHuVl4rBbAQWGk5ftutK Q5YfY0M4UXr5FQPLo3rRynTnFTvoD/41qZgWrM9w0Teu/njd2fKf678E5CFg+rh/ cbIQxFHrar+DIyDubPwFWXg6rHUZAPfAHYHzGpj8eZ7yslD3nNtl0vZoBQohmeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=OkoRM5 8PEYhM+8HrxPfOxmazODSbEvZCaW+jbS9EWxniHJ/BUs8+BAJzQmtHHEXGPhW8aY kYurIe8H9ZzZkNN19ub8e3Y3qKuk18fDQIdXrZNYSaDYlnfqZWL6V3SmVIi90fpY LchNtm/ubhb+Wk3db88GscnrrqJdbxeqnimwc= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EEF9FEAF; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.76.80.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 882FA9FEAD; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:44:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: SZEDER =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A1bor?= Cc: Emily Shaffer , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] MyFirstContribution: add avenues for getting help References: <20200124210148.220007-1-emilyshaffer@google.com> <20200124212602.74194-1-emilyshaffer@google.com> <20200124215628.GI6837@szeder.dev> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:44:40 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20200124215628.GI6837@szeder.dev> ("SZEDER =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A1?= =?utf-8?Q?bor=22's?= message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:56:28 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 7EF6AB38-3F03-11EA-B993-8D86F504CC47-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org SZEDER G=C3=A1bor writes: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 01:26:02PM -0800, Emily Shaffer wrote: >> With https://lore.kernel.org/git/20191114194708.GD60198@google.com/ we >> now have a mentoring mailing list, to which we should direct new >> contributors who have questions. > > Why should a supposedly "open" open source project direct new > contributors to a mailing list that is not openly accessible, and even > reading and searching its archives requires registration? Haven't we had that discussion when the mentoring list was launched? I would not prefer joining a closed list of unknown people over coming up with a fake name and asking for help in an open list if I had choice when interacting with an established community as a new member, but I would understand it if preference of some people are opposite from mine. The more important part, from my point of view, is that we offer choices (the proposed doc update illustrates three).