From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611921F4B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 15:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732546AbgJAPsb (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:48:31 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:61288 "EHLO pb-smtp20.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732308AbgJAPsa (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:48:30 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2171E0899; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:48:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=DRlgoL2ox4cdrfOPJo+BsjJ9DN4=; b=efM0Ek 55tvcoajq14IzKyHl490vv8F5Z2j8gdrqsZxYdJAp88BAtF8w1IRE0d5TCCUH8XS Eb50lW68ONWNBOVajwsxoJo3os0o78E9i6wUBfKFVXYD36cqaiDMAEVtIS+nrZl3 /IOZK7e9ZzvyHJsufnZ+w+vtrPeywzld3tKdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=jf74zDL3PIiCL7bxam5JbTsEuHbd+Yqj rUbnKjs1zPnDLRrN12ADSLFVXjAGTeM/1eLPVwxR4SszZKr5DUWgWrnX8R7TW6UZ Cf/q73pij10xhdJIStQ144cSIIxhOjrzE4ow6P+h1yuW59g9dQ/D1HoABKyyXmkX DSX3pm5Ki84= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA97CE0898; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:48:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.75.7.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23D41E0895; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:48:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Jonathan Nieder Cc: Shengfa Lin , git@vger.kernel.org, nathaniel@google.com, rsbecker@nexbridge.com, santiago@nyu.edu Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone References: <20200930232138.3656304-1-shengfa@google.com> <20201001034350.GB2930867@google.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:48:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20201001034350.GB2930867@google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:43:50 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 8B2E74CA-03FD-11EB-99FE-F0EA2EB3C613-77302942!pb-smtp20.pobox.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Jonathan Nieder writes: > In addition to not having to futz with TZ, I think I like the > semantics better. The motivation that started this thread was not so > much "I want to set a custom timezone to blend in" but rather "why are > we recording the timezone at all here?" In that context, it makes > sense to me to have a setting such as > > core.recordTimeZone > > that I can turn *off* to say that I don't think datestamp() callers > should consider the timezone to be information worth recording (and > instead they should write +0000). To me that seems a little simpler > to understand than user.hideTimezone since this focuses on turning > some functionality off (recording of the time zone) instead of turning > on a new stealth mode. Hmph. It is a valid way to look at the issue, I guess. Thanks for an input.