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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Better suggestions when git-am(1) fails
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:28:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh6us7epk.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAr6vIOe3WbTIohE@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2023 04:39:08 -0500")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

>   1. I feel like "-p1" was pretty standard even before Git. You'd
>      extract two copies of the tarball, one into "foo-1.2.3" and one
>      into "foo-1.2.3.orig", and then "diff -Nru" between them to send a
>      patch.

I would too, but then we wouldn't have accepted the request to add
.noprefix configuration; I do not recall where it came from.

>   2. It feels weird that a maintainer who isn't using Git would expect a
>      lot of contributions from folks who are. And even weirder, that
>      they would insist that all of the folks sending patches set
>      diff.noprefix.
>
> So I won't say it's not possible (especially in some closed community).
> But I'm skeptical.

The scenario I would find more likely is a project established long
before we were popular wants to keep using -p0 even after switching
to use Git.

> All that said, if "apply" and "am" could automatically figure out
> and handle "-p0" patches, that would be a useful way to help
> people.  I'm just hesitant because it probably involves some heuristics.

I am not all that interested in that direction, for exactly the same
reason as I are heditant. Such a tool that outsmarts users will
eventually bite them.

> Yeah, I am as always a little concerned that one person's fix is another
> one's regression. But it really just seems to that on balance people set
> diff.noprefix with no thought at all to how it would affect format-patch
> (in fact, I'd guess 99% of Git users do not use format-patch at all).
> And then they are surprised (or worse, the receiver is surprised) when
> it doesn't work.

For these 99% users, if format-patch paid attention to their
diff.noprefix and used -p0, the world would become even more
interesting place.  I am not sure this particular cure is an
overall win.  And as you mentioned elsewhere, a change that is
deliberately designed to be breaking like this does not become
much safer by cooking in 'next', which is another sad thing.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-08 20:15 Better suggestions when git-am(1) fails Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-09  3:17 ` Jeff King
2023-03-09  6:06   ` Jeff King
2023-03-09  6:07     ` [PATCH 1/5] diff: factor out src/dst prefix setup Jeff King
2023-03-09 10:50       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-09  6:07     ` [PATCH 2/5] t4013: add tests for diff prefix options Jeff King
2023-03-09  6:09     ` [PATCH 3/5] diff: add --default-prefix option Jeff King
2023-03-09 10:51       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-09 16:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10  9:44         ` Jeff King
2023-03-10 17:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-13 16:43             ` Jeff King
2023-03-13 17:17               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-13 17:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-13 19:54                 ` Jeff King
2023-03-09  6:11     ` [PATCH 4/5] format-patch: do not respect diff.noprefix Jeff King
2023-03-09 10:53       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-09 16:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10  9:49         ` Jeff King
2023-03-09  6:12     ` [PATCH 5/5] format-patch: add format.noprefix option Jeff King
2023-03-09 17:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10  9:51         ` Jeff King
2023-03-09 10:58     ` Better suggestions when git-am(1) fails Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-09 21:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10  9:54       ` Jeff King
2023-03-09 16:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-10  9:39     ` Jeff King
2023-03-10 16:28       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2023-03-13 16:37         ` Jeff King
2023-03-13 17:10           ` Junio C Hamano

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