From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, peartben@gmail.com,
christian.couder@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Fsck for lazy objects, and (now) actual invocation of loader
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 13:15:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfudbf3jd.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170801174502.GR13924@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:45:02 -0700")
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:
> If we are deeply worried about this kind of broken connectivity, there
> is another case to care about: the server can "promise" to serve
> requests for some object (e.g., the tree pointed to by the server's
> "master") and then decide it does not want to fulfill that promise
> (e.g., that tree pointed to private key material and "master" was
> rewound to avoid it).
I think I've already covered that in my message (i.e. "we need to
assume more than the normal Git"). In short, it is not our problem,
but the "lazy-object" service's problem. If developers cannot trust
the "central server", most likely owned by the organization that
employs them and forces them to offload the access to these objects
to the "central server", I think there is much larger problem there.
> In the promises model, how we do we get a fresh
> understanding of what the server wants to promise now?
Yes, that is one of the things that needs to be designed if we want
to officially support lazy-objects like structure. We need a way to
incrementally adjust the cut-off point, below which it is the
responsibility of the "other side" to ensure that necessary objects
are available (on demand), and above which it is a local
repository's responsibility to notice corrupted and/or missing
objects.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-01 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-26 23:29 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Some patches for fsck for missing objects Jonathan Tan
2017-07-26 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] environment, fsck: introduce lazyobject extension Jonathan Tan
2017-07-27 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-28 13:20 ` Ben Peart
2017-07-28 23:50 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-07-29 0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-26 23:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] fsck: support refs pointing to lazy objects Jonathan Tan
2017-07-27 18:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-27 23:50 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-07-28 13:29 ` Ben Peart
2017-07-28 20:08 ` [PATCH] tests: ensure fsck fails on corrupt packfiles Jonathan Tan
2017-07-26 23:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] fsck: support referenced lazy objects Jonathan Tan
2017-07-27 19:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-27 23:50 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-07-29 16:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-26 23:30 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] fsck: support lazy objects as CLI argument Jonathan Tan
2017-07-26 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Some patches for fsck for missing objects brian m. carlson
2017-07-27 0:24 ` Stefan Beller
2017-07-27 17:25 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-07-28 13:40 ` Ben Peart
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fsck for lazy objects, and (now) actual invocation of loader Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-31 23:05 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-01 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-01 17:45 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-08-01 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-08-02 0:19 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-02 16:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-02 17:38 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-08-02 20:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-02 22:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-08-03 19:08 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-08 17:13 ` Ben Peart
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] environment, fsck: introduce lazyobject extension Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] fsck: support refs pointing to lazy objects Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] fsck: support referenced " Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] fsck: support lazy objects as CLI argument Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:02 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] sha1_file: support loading lazy objects Jonathan Tan
2017-07-31 21:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-08 20:20 ` Ben Peart
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