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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com>
Cc: "Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] Gets rid of "if reflog exists, append to it regardless of config settings"
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:27:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfsterotr.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk0iqrp4q.fsf@gitster.g> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:20:53 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com> writes:
>
>> I had the impression that I addressed all outstanding comments (but
>> not sure). Are you waiting for me to do something before this can go
>> into 'seen' ?
>>
>> There is a merge conflict against master, so I'll send a v4 shortly.
>
> Sorry.  I seem to have looked at and commented on the precursor RFC
> of this topic, but nobody other than Ævar seems to have commented on
> the second iteration and the topic was completely under my radar,
> and I do not remember what it was about.
>
> It would be good to have an update for others to see.
>
> Thanks.

Not really.  I think the comment on the RFC still stands, and I do
not recall seeing a response to the point.

    One potential harm this change will bring to us is what happens to
    people who disable core.logAllRefUpdates manually after using the
    repository for a while.  Their @{4} will point at the same commit no
    matter how many operations are done on the current branch after they
    do so.  I wouldn't mind if "git reflog disable" command is given to
    the users prominently and core.logAllRefUpdates becomes a mere
    implementation detail nobody has to care about---in such a world, we
    could set the configuration and drop the existing reflog records at
    the same time and nobody will be hurt.

    If we keep the current behaviour, what are we harming instead?
    Growth of diskspace usage is an obvious one, but disks are cheaper
    compared to human brainwave cycles cost.

As it is about the basic design of the "feature" (or misfeature), no
matter how improved the internal implementation details get, I am
skeptical how it is solved (other than "immediately when we notice
core.logAllRefUpdates is disabled, remove all the existing reflog
entries to avoid confusion, in addition to stop appending any more
reflog entries", that is).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-30 14:48 [PATCH 0/4] Gets rid of "if reflog exists, append to it regardless of config settings" Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-08-30 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] test-ref-store: tweaks to for-each-reflog-ent format Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-08-30 19:57   ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-30 20:23   ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-30 20:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-30 20:58     ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-30 21:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-30 14:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] t1400: use test-helper ref-store to inspect reflog contents Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-08-30 20:55   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-30 14:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] refs: drop force_create argument of create_reflog API Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-08-30 21:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-30 14:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] RFC: refs: reflog entries aren't written based on reflog existence Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-08-30 21:10   ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-30 21:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-06 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Gets rid of "if reflog exists, append to it regardless of config settings" Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 16:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] refs: trim newline from reflog message Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 22:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-06 16:52   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] test-ref-store: tweaks to for-each-reflog-ent format Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 22:34     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 13:33       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-09-07 15:53         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-06 16:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] t1400: use test-helper ref-store to inspect reflog contents Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 16:52   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] refs: drop force_create argument of create_reflog API Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 22:42     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-06 16:52   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] RFC: refs: reflog entries aren't written based on reflog existence Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 22:50     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 13:36   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Gets rid of "if reflog exists, append to it regardless of config settings" Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] show-branch: show reflog message Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] refs: trim newline from " Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] test-ref-store: tweaks to for-each-reflog-ent format Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] t1400: use test-helper ref-store to inspect reflog contents Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] refs: drop force_create argument of create_reflog API Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] RFC: refs: reflog entries aren't written based on reflog existence Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 13:36     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] refs: change log_ref_setup calling convention Han-Wen Nienhuys via GitGitGadget
2021-10-05 15:54     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Gets rid of "if reflog exists, append to it regardless of config settings" Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-06 18:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-06 18:27         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-10-07 17:38           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-11 11:46             ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-11-11 14:38               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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