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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Jonathan Tan" <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/10] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 11:13:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfsnrkkhd.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kl6lh7885mm3.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (Glen Choo's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2022 10:24:04 -0800")

Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com> writes:

> This uses a "first one wins approach", which obviously doesn't have
> correctness guarantees. But in practice, I don't think this is likely to
> cause problems:
>
> - As far as I can tell, the only value we read from .gitmodules is
>   'submodule.<name>.fetchRecurseSubmodules', and this value gets
>   overridden by two other values: the CLI option, and the config
>   variable with the same name in .git/config.
>
>   During "git submodule init", we copy the config values from
>   .gitmodules to .git/config. Since we can only fetch init-ed submodules
>   anyway, it's quite unlikely that we will ever actually make use of the
>   .gitmodules config.

These are reasonable.

> - Even if we do use the .gitmodules config values, it's unlikely that
>   the values in .gitmodules will change often, so it _probably_ won't
>   matter which one we choose.

What bad things would we see if the value changes during the span of
history of the superproject we fetched?  How often we would see
broken behaviour is immaterial and breakage being rare is a no excuse
to import a new code with designed-in flaw.  Unless the "rare" is
"never", that is.

I would think using ANY values from .gitmodules without having the
end-user agree with the settings and copying the settings to the
.git/config is a BUG.  So if it mattered from which superproject
commit we took .gitmodules from, that would mean we already have
such a bug and it is not a new problem.

That would be a reasonable argument for this topic. Together with
the previous point, i.e. we do not copy values we see in the in-tree
.gitmodules file to .git/config anyway, it would make a good enough
assurance, I would think.

> - This only matters when the submodule is not in the index. If the
>   submodule _is_ in the index, we read .gitmodules from the filesystem
>   i.e. these patches shouldn't change the behavior for submodules in the
>   index.

How often we would see broken behaviour does not matter.  If it is
broken when the submodule is not in the index, we need to know.

But as you said, it does not sound likely that in-tree .gitmodules
matters.

It leads to a possible #leftoverbit clean-up.  Because we only fetch
submodules that are initialized, the API functions we are using in
this series has no reason to require us to feed _a_ commit in the
superproject to them so that they can find .gitmodules in them.

Fixing the API can probably be left outside the scope of the topic,
to be done soon after the dust from the topic settles, I think, to
avoid distracting us from the topic.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10  4:41 [PATCH 0/8] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Glen Choo
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 1/8] submodule: inline submodule_commits() into caller Glen Choo
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 2/8] submodule: store new submodule commits oid_array in a struct Glen Choo
2022-02-10 19:00   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-10 22:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 3/8] submodule: make static functions read submodules from commits Glen Choo
2022-02-10 19:15   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-11 10:07     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-11 10:09     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 4/8] t5526: introduce test helper to assert on fetches Glen Choo
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 5/8] t5526: use grep " Glen Choo
2022-02-10 19:17   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] submodule: extract get_fetch_task() Glen Choo
2022-02-10 19:33   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 7/8] fetch: fetch unpopulated, changed submodules Glen Choo
2022-02-10 22:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11  7:15     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-11 17:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10 22:51   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-14  4:24     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-14 18:04     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-14 10:17   ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10  4:41 ` [PATCH 8/8] submodule: fix bug and remove add_submodule_odb() Glen Choo
2022-02-10 22:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11  3:13     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10 23:04   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-11  3:18     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-11 17:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-14  2:52       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10  7:07 ` [PATCH 0/8] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10  8:51   ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10 17:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11  2:39       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15 17:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " Glen Choo
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] t5526: introduce test helper to assert on fetches Glen Choo
2022-02-15 21:37     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] t5526: use grep " Glen Choo
2022-02-15 21:53     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  3:09       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-16 10:02         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-17  4:04           ` Glen Choo
2022-02-17  9:25             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-17 16:16               ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] submodule: make static functions read submodules from commits Glen Choo
2022-02-15 21:18     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-16  6:59       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:00     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16  7:08       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] submodule: inline submodule_commits() into caller Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:02     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] submodule: store new submodule commits oid_array in a struct Glen Choo
2022-02-15 21:33     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] submodule: extract get_fetch_task() Glen Choo
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] fetch: fetch unpopulated, changed submodules Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:02     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-16  5:46       ` Glen Choo
2022-02-16  9:11         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-16  9:39           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-16 17:33             ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] submodule: read shallows when finding " Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:03     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-15 17:23   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] submodule: fix latent check_has_commit() bug Glen Choo
2022-02-15 22:04     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-24 10:08   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 01/10] t5526: introduce test helper to assert on fetches Glen Choo
2022-02-25  0:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 02/10] t5526: stop asserting on stderr literally Glen Choo
2022-02-24 11:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-24 16:15         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-24 18:13           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-24 23:05       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-25  2:26         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 03/10] t5526: create superproject commits with test helper Glen Choo
2022-02-24 23:14       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-25  2:52         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-25 11:42           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-28 18:11             ` Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 04/10] submodule: make static functions read submodules from commits Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 05/10] submodule: inline submodule_commits() into caller Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 06/10] submodule: store new submodule commits oid_array in a struct Glen Choo
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 07/10] submodule: extract get_fetch_task() Glen Choo
2022-02-24 23:26       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 08/10] submodule: move logic into fetch_task_create() Glen Choo
2022-02-24 23:36       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 09/10] fetch: fetch unpopulated, changed submodules Glen Choo
2022-02-24 21:30       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-25  3:04         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-25  0:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-25  3:07         ` Glen Choo
2022-02-25  0:39       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-25  3:46         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-04 23:46           ` Jonathan Tan
2022-03-05  0:22             ` Glen Choo
2022-03-04 23:53           ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-26 18:53       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-01 20:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-03-01 20:33           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-02 23:25             ` Glen Choo
2022-03-01 20:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-24 10:08     ` [PATCH v3 10/10] submodule: fix latent check_has_commit() bug Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] t5526: introduce test helper to assert on fetches Glen Choo
2022-03-04  2:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-04 22:11           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] t5526: stop asserting on stderr literally Glen Choo
2022-03-04  2:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-04 22:41         ` Jonathan Tan
2022-03-04 23:48           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-05  0:25             ` Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] t5526: create superproject commits with test helper Glen Choo
2022-03-04 22:59         ` Jonathan Tan
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] submodule: make static functions read submodules from commits Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] submodule: inline submodule_commits() into caller Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] submodule: store new submodule commits oid_array in a struct Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] submodule: extract get_fetch_task() Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] submodule: move logic into fetch_task_create() Glen Choo
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] fetch: fetch unpopulated, changed submodules Glen Choo
2022-03-04  2:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-04 22:59           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-05  0:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-05  0:37               ` Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:11                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-04 23:56         ` Jonathan Tan
2022-03-04  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] submodule: fix latent check_has_commit() bug Glen Choo
2022-03-04  2:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-04  2:22       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08  0:14       ` [PATCH v5 " Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 01/10] t5526: introduce test helper to assert on fetches Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 02/10] t5526: stop asserting on stderr literally Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 03/10] t5526: create superproject commits with test helper Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 04/10] submodule: make static functions read submodules from commits Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 05/10] submodule: inline submodule_commits() into caller Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 06/10] submodule: store new submodule commits oid_array in a struct Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 07/10] submodule: extract get_fetch_task() Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 08/10] submodule: move logic into fetch_task_create() Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 09/10] fetch: fetch unpopulated, changed submodules Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:14         ` [PATCH v5 10/10] submodule: fix latent check_has_commit() bug Glen Choo
2022-03-08  0:50         ` [PATCH v5 00/10] fetch --recurse-submodules: fetch unpopulated submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 18:24           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-09 19:13             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-03-09 19:49               ` Glen Choo
2022-03-09 20:22                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 22:11                   ` Glen Choo
2022-03-16 21:58                     ` Glen Choo
2022-03-16 22:06                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-16 22:37                         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-16 23:08                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 21:42         ` Jonathan Tan

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