From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF641F453 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 16:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729093AbeI1Wz1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:55:27 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f66.google.com ([209.85.128.66]:53469 "EHLO mail-wm1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726971AbeI1Wz1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:55:27 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f66.google.com with SMTP id b19-v6so2830939wme.3 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:30:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=ysEEeZ+5Y0H6+6NcxiBm9rW7JJ8KDuau0gCsDX8C9JM=; b=UXA4nfWj9kjIx381PMz4IxJOQVGMgqSOQhINDFQN95T83wvJRMGVNr7jEULlCd6yem j9y3+nAhlqWBaK01G9c6dHbw0LwdM4eVFmEGMxyqfHCeiT2tbMr4bHUzOW4wk/7F0oDE /NN8oyimVZZrUxCOOAn3n/gumYr1mwlRuWrmRZRgUfs78Bq0Xzd0veeZJIPLQXIDymV2 0CLh5e1pu/TAsFNMCeeZ4ftxBcA/NEEW0gC51mVZCiVHQYA1ZqH+yMG5+Tdbfc47XAkU nnzuwt6GRMlBBGZWE7/uX8t2TMYCN+cWMApC/3gRFMwpNfc9G8GB+Yhob5bvmqjL4/fx Y5ZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=ysEEeZ+5Y0H6+6NcxiBm9rW7JJ8KDuau0gCsDX8C9JM=; b=FXtv/LZyPpmjgm5bHv5QPue0e4+ldyaNhyNQzIcR5dbnfgn9rIQ6l8KNYrAk+imSxx qTc89iNWDfn66wQrS9ikbGKFTWkOIyQy6/NywpE40x3gYS9a0rrnxdCmGcjfJf6Lzn0j Vy4GEBadrlxwvCIa3vyBJsiQfyHVtzzqkpGeQFT4qf1+rZT5lezrqXKwVmiEugZInKQF 4bQqnDVS71TIlYP5bg5345qyePo3pV1M9K5HGc/g7Vj+mvOUuqHBQz4n9sy1LlxW4iVO Q8J0VXEMu1RYFNNPR+Bzs0uoOg+G0P0yZIMKgTSjozDV600ES4zpYOUVP+GEy4DyGChL SvMw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoj36HQe/iMsyfxsBNbYlG9ofYIq9m8UKyCg/1kCSecQoncqyXZy aW/OC/GGSNlPtDBYFzX2IpQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60XhRjM3Rs1I1r+Jni/dra1J1nGSnG1/FN/JGRGs2B8Aoz3McDW1FLCVmTmg2Bne2lpr7B1Sw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1a49:: with SMTP id a70-v6mr2247701wma.91.1538152252715; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (168.50.187.35.bc.googleusercontent.com. [35.187.50.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u191-v6sm2663896wmd.31.2018.09.28.09.30.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:30:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Taylor Blau Cc: Duy Nguyen , Jeff King , Git Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH] git help: promote 'git help -av' References: <20180922174707.16498-1-pclouds@gmail.com> <20180924181927.GB25341@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20180925174451.GA29454@duynguyen.home> <20180928023724.GA89283@syl> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:30:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20180928023724.GA89283@syl> (Taylor Blau's message of "Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:37:24 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Taylor Blau writes: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:28:31AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Duy Nguyen writes: >> >> > Here's the patch that adds that external commands and aliases >> > sections. I feel that external commands section is definitely good to >> > have even if we don't replace "help -a". Aliases are more >> > subjective... >> >> I didn't apply this (so I didn't try running it), but a quick >> eyeballing tells me that the listing of external commands in -av >> output done in this patch seems reasonable. >> >> I do not think removing "-v" and making the current "help -a" output >> unavailable is a wise idea, though. > > I think that your point about having to react in a split-second in order > to ^C before we open the manual page for a command is a good one. So, I > agree with this. Responding to a wrong thread? I thought "now I need ^C within a handful of deciseconds if I want only alias?" was not about the change to make "-v" default when "help -a" is asked, but about what to do with "git foo --help" that only gives "foo is aliased to ...".