From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::1:20]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95B81F54E for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 22:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: dcvr.yhbt.net; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="pwYiDCaE"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231956AbiGMW2k (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28:40 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33776 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231747AbiGMW2i (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28:38 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (pb-smtp21.pobox.com [173.228.157.53]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1FF270E for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 15:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093F1198BE8; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=QMEHXLUXuk9+ PZ7TBqMvdhfMbUJBTx2+wmd/j3UyOEE=; b=pwYiDCaEnO0sSuGajc33RtiX2PGa jtF9o+4bqUHvy7vKwESSGlVnGIRDu9EDuEtheyp3qFPR82vi/P3YWB+/5ghzwGxJ MKVDWv+bkdT/qt9EPmXNv6TtsNrCzZdQZvfc/IuqCqk672XujMQKuqpTbe1nXrKF m0v5RoG1T3082Ko= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18C8198BE7; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.83.92.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E94B198BE6; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de, Derrick Stolee Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Use "allowlist" and "denylist" tree-wide References: <220713.86wncg3hnj.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 15:28:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: <220713.86wncg3hnj.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOG?= =?utf-8?B?dmFyIEFybmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2022 21:42:44 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 20152FF4-02FB-11ED-9B0D-CBA7845BAAA9-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason writes: > On Wed, Jul 13 2022, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote: > >> The terms "allowlist" and "denylist" are self-defining. One "allows" t= hings >> while the other "denies" things. > > I've got a preference for things that can be found in widely available > dictionaries, these words seem to be tech neologisms. FWIW, I share the same. I suspect that "whitelist" may be found in more dictionaries than "allowlist". e.g. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allowlist https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whitelist A statement "We have audience who are not native English speakers, and may not share cultural background" may not be incorrect at all, but that does not justify s/whitelist/allowlist/. We end up with sentences written with non-words that these non-natives cannot even look up in dictionary. If we can rephrase without using these invented words, we should do so, especially when the result becomes even easier to read than the original that used "whitelist". I've shown a few examples in my other messages in this thread. Thanks.