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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] War on dashed-git
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:45:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqd03dwe2x.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2008261007100.56@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:09:25 +0200 (CEST)")

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> So maybe this patch series would be a good first step, but if we truly
> wanted to break that 12-year old promise, we might need to have another
> patch on top that _does_ install the dashed commands, but into a
> subdirectory of `libexec/git-core/` that is only added to the `PATH` when
> an "escape hatch"-style config setting is set.

Yes, I think that is a much more reasonable approach.  Instead of
checking another environment variable that does not do anything but
bypass the "you used dashed form for builtin" check, we install non
builtins in libexec/git-core and leave the exec-cmd.c::setup_path()
as-is to add it to the PATH.  A new location will have the buitlin
binaries, say in libexec/git-core/builtins, and it is not added to
the $PATH by us.  The scripts that the users updated 12-years ago by
adding the former to the $PATH now needs to also add the latter,
too, and those users will loudly complain (which is what we want to
see happen [*1*]), but doing so is an easy way to unbreak them while
we reverse the course.

I think the cvsexportcommit and transport-helper changes are worth
salvaging even if we don't remove builtin binaries, so I'll split
them and whip them a bit more into a reasonable shape to be merged
to 'next'.  The "break those who say 'git-cat-file'" can be left for
future.

Thanks.


[Footnote]

*1* In the ancient thread, I was sick of hearing complaints that
beat the dead horse, but in this particular case, we do want to hear
from them---that is the primary reason why we are doing it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-26 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-25  2:01 [PATCH] builtin/repack.c: invalidate MIDX only when necessary Taylor Blau
2020-08-25  2:26 ` Jeff King
2020-08-25  2:37   ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 13:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 14:41       ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 15:14         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 15:42           ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 16:56             ` Jeff King
2020-08-25 15:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 16:08     ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 16:18     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 17:34       ` Jeff King
2020-08-25 17:22     ` Jeff King
2020-08-25 18:05       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 18:27         ` Jeff King
2020-08-25 22:45           ` [PATCH] pack-redundant: gauge the usage before proposing its removal Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 23:09             ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 23:22               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:17             ` [PATCH v1 0/3] War on dashed-git Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:17               ` [PATCH v1 1/3] transport-helper: do not run git-remote-ext etc. in dashed form Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:24                 ` Eric Sunshine
2020-08-26  7:55                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-26 16:27                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:17               ` [PATCH v1 2/3] cvsexportcommit: do not run git programs " Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:28                 ` Eric Sunshine
2020-08-26  1:42                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 16:08                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 16:28                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  8:02                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-26  1:17               ` [PATCH v1 3/3] git: catch an attempt to run "git-foo" Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  1:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26  8:06                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-26 16:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-28  2:13                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-28 22:03                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-31  9:59                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-31 17:45                       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-20 15:25                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-12-21 22:24                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-30  5:30                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-26  8:09               ` [PATCH v1 0/3] War on dashed-git Johannes Schindelin
2020-08-26 16:45                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-08-26 19:46                   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] avoid running "git-subcmd" in the dashed form Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 19:46                     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] transport-helper: do not run git-remote-ext etc. in " Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 19:46                     ` [PATCH v2 2/2] cvsexportcommit: do not run git programs " Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 21:37                       ` [PATCH v2 3/2] credential-cache: use child_process.args Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 22:25                         ` [PATCH] run_command: teach API users to use embedded 'args' more Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27  4:21                           ` Jeff King
2020-08-27  4:30                             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27  4:31                             ` Eric Sunshine
2020-08-27  4:44                               ` Jeff King
2020-08-27  5:03                                 ` Eric Sunshine
2020-08-27  5:25                                   ` [PATCH] worktree: fix leak in check_clean_worktree() Jeff King
2020-08-27  5:56                                     ` Eric Sunshine
2020-08-27 15:31                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27  4:13                         ` [PATCH v2 3/2] credential-cache: use child_process.args Jeff King
2020-08-27  4:22                           ` Jeff King
2020-08-27  4:31                           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27  4:14                         ` Jeff King
2020-08-27 15:34                           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-31 22:56                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-01  4:49                           ` Jeff King
2020-09-01 16:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27  0:57                     ` [PATCH v2 0/2] avoid running "git-subcmd" in the dashed form Derrick Stolee
2020-08-27  1:22                       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-28  9:14             ` [PATCH] pack-redundant: gauge the usage before proposing its removal Jeff King
2020-08-28 22:45               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25  7:55 ` [PATCH] builtin/repack.c: invalidate MIDX only when necessary Son Luong Ngoc
2020-08-25 12:45   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 14:45   ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 16:04     ` [PATCH v2] " Taylor Blau
2020-08-26 20:51       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-26 20:54         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 16:47     ` [PATCH] " Jeff King
2020-08-25 17:10       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 17:29         ` Jeff King
2020-08-25 17:34           ` Taylor Blau
2020-08-25 17:42             ` Jeff King

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