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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Shaoxuan Yuan <shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com>,
	Matheus Tavares <matheus.bernardino@usp.br>,
	ZheNing Hu <adlternative@gmail.com>,
	Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sparse-checkout.txt: new document with sparse-checkout directions
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:43:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqczbg9613.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1367.git.1664064588846.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 00:09:48 +0000")

"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

> +  * Does the name --[no-]restrict sound good to others?  Are there better options?

Everybody in this thread are interested in sparse checkout, which
unfortunately blinds them from the fact that "restrict to", "limit
to", "focus on", etc. need not to be limited to the sparse checkout
feature.  We must have something that hints that the option is about
the sparse checkout feature.

As to the verbs, I do not mind "restrict to".  Other good ones I do
not mind choosing are "limit to" and "focus on".  They would equally
convey the same thing in this context.  And the object for these
verb phrases are the area of interest, those paths without the
skip-worktree bit, the paths outside the sparse cone(s).

Or we could go the other way.  We are excluding those paths with the
skip-worktree bit, so "exclude" and "ignore" are natural candidates.

These two classes are good if the "restrict" behaviour will never be
the default.  When it is the default, the option often used will
become "--no-restrict", which is awkward.

	Personally I am slightly in favor of "focus on" (i.e.
	"--focus" vs "--unfocus") as that meshes well with the
	concept of "the areas of the working tree paths that I am
	interested in right now", which may already hint that the
	option is about the sparse checkout feature (i.e. "I am
	focusing on these areas right now") and can stay short.  But
	this is just one person's opinion.

> +      * `--sparse`, as used in add/rm/mv, is totally backwards for
> +	grep/log/etc.  Changing the meaning of `--sparse` for these
> +	commands would fix the backwardness, but possibly break existing
> +	scripts.  Using a new name pairing would allow us to treat
> +	`--sparse` in these commands as a deprecated alias.

I actually am in favor of this, even though the appearance of
breaking backward compatibility may be big, but ...

> +      * There is a different `--sparse`/`--dense` pair for commands using
> +	revision machinery, so using that naming might cause confusion

... that is a good reason to avoid these two words.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-27 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-25  0:09 [PATCH] sparse-checkout.txt: new document with sparse-checkout directions Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-09-26 17:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-26 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-27  3:05   ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27  4:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-26 20:08 ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-26 22:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-27  7:30     ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27 16:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-28  6:13         ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27  6:09   ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27 16:42   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-28  5:42     ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27 15:43 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-09-28  7:49   ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-27 16:36 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-28  5:38   ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-28 13:22     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-10-06  7:10       ` Elijah Newren
2022-10-06 18:27         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-10-07  2:56           ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-30  9:54     ` ZheNing Hu
2022-10-06  7:53       ` Elijah Newren
2022-10-15  2:17         ` ZheNing Hu
2022-10-15  4:37           ` Elijah Newren
2022-10-15 14:49             ` ZheNing Hu
2022-09-30  9:09   ` ZheNing Hu
2022-09-28  8:32 ` [PATCH v2] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-10-08 22:52   ` [PATCH v3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-11-06  6:04     ` [PATCH v4] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 20:44       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-16  4:39         ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-15  4:03       ` ZheNing Hu
2022-11-16  3:18         ` ZheNing Hu
2022-11-16  6:51           ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16  5:49         ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16 10:04           ` ZheNing Hu
2022-11-16 10:10             ` ZheNing Hu
2022-11-16 14:33               ` ZheNing Hu
2022-11-19  2:36                 ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-19  2:15             ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-23  9:08               ` ZheNing Hu
2023-01-14 10:18           ` ZheNing Hu
2023-01-20  4:30             ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-23 15:05               ` ZheNing Hu
2023-01-24  3:17                 ` Elijah Newren

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