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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Teng Long <dyroneteng@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, tenglong.tl@alibaba-inc.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/1] ls-remote: inconsistency from the order of args and opts
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:42:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbl0eaw2e.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <220114.867db2rs0n.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> ("Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason"'s message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:57:17 +0100")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> We have multiple commands that are in GNU-fashion loose about whether
> you provide options first before no-option args, or after. E.g. we
> accept both of:
>
>     git push --dry-run <remote> <ref>
>
> And:
>
>     git push <remote> <ref> --dry-run

Yes, but I consider that a bug that we cannot fix due to backward
compatibility issues.

That is why my preference is to encourage users to stick to the
POSIX way in gltcli, just like we recommend "stuck" form of options
its parameter.

> But when GNU came around its option parser was generally happy to accept
> options and args in either order. E.g. these both work with GNU
> coreutils, but the latter will fail on FreeBSD and various other
> capital-U UNIX-es:
>
>     touch foo; rm -v foo
>     touch foo; rm foo -v

Yes, among the harm GNU has done on mankind, this is one of the
biggest ones.  We shouldn't waste our engineering time to support
more of them in our tools.

As long as users stick to the recommended "dashed options first and
then args, among which revs come first and then pathspecs", they
will be fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14  4:24 [RFC PATCH v1 0/1] ls-remote: inconsistency from the order of args and opts Teng Long
2022-01-14  4:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/1] ls-remote: Make the output independent of the order of opts and <remote> Teng Long
2022-01-14  5:47 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/1] ls-remote: inconsistency from the order of args and opts Junio C Hamano
2022-01-14  6:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-14  6:42   ` Teng Long
2022-01-15  0:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-14 19:57   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-14 20:42     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-01-14 20:57       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-14 21:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-15  0:34           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-15  1:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-14 21:12     ` brian m. carlson
2022-01-15  0:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-15  0:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-15  1:02           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-15  1:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-17  6:27 ` Teng Long

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