Re: [PATCH 00/14] completion: a bunch of updates

[Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>]

Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:

>> We are making life worse for the zsh users by shipping our own
>> version, aren't we?  If we didn't ship our own completion script for
>> them, the user did not have to remove the one "which is considerably
>> less complete/capable".
>
> No. You are assuming the opinion of one user in Stack Overflow is a fact.
>
> There's a reason people prefer to use Git's official completion, and
> there's a reason I wrote the wrapper.

Do you mean by "the wrapper" the 'gitfast' one you offer in the
oh-my-zsh collection?  If so, yes, I agree that 'gitfast' as "maybe
less complete but usably faster auto-completer" is a good thing for
end-users to have as an alternative to the Zsh default.

But that was not the point I was raising.  I was saying that it was
not making life better for them that we are posing as a valid third
choice in that competition.

Your "wrapper" can still be updated regularly to the latest to grab
the bash completion part from "git.git".  To the Zsh audience,
however, it would be more straight-forward if the choices were
"there is Zsh default completion, but if you want to use a
different/better version, grab 'gitfast' from the oh-my-zsh
collection" than "you can use Zsh default, or you can install
'gitfast' in the way Zsh users are accustomed to from the oh-my-zsh
collection, or you can manually install from git.git".  After all,
the latter two would give them the same thing.

It may be a good idea to leave a message in contrib/completion that
nudges people toward 'gitfast' as an alternative for thowe who want
to use something other than the default Zsh autocompletion.

Doing so would remove one level of unnecessary middleman (that is
us) from the picture and make it simpler for end-users by reducing
the number of choices from three to two.

> They prioritize completeness over usability.
> ...
> No. Those people don't care if their completion is unusable.
> ...
> This is not possible, as the Zsh maintainers don't care about usability.

I think our code of conduct applies to derogatory statements made on
even those who do not regularly appear in this community.  If you
want to attack them, please don't do it here.  Thanks.