From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF11F97E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 08:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727368AbeJJQHv (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:07:51 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f66.google.com ([209.85.221.66]:35140 "EHLO mail-wr1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726822AbeJJQHv (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:07:51 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f66.google.com with SMTP id w5-v6so4742994wrt.2 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 01:46:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=p/jDBIRU/O7xSXizD2yC0kUTrYJbIc2EB3/Zs74zEzA=; b=AMKFJdWiCKt7xZKl6HMotLF3/nh5lHZrT6E3WNPifozIPNWuil3bo9t0SoxerkxZUE tR6hMJFTZGl1CNp4EcBOHh3V5LqDAPM851KJXw1ZoB1VEbNDmRUArRAdG4zUHHfOhvCu EfRv9r6bnsFHgTApwTyX+U1RYphXZKelSFpEl3LXPO7i6A+X0O19PNkcAyNDUv9hs8B7 9mdcXz70kSJkGYPxPs+8O4wD4ReoWE7WaEBnf6xhjVTE6B0oqTq1tUdOEbpbaFEkG6aN 6EskAENuxmJe7IIBvSB3bOVP1WEepaj/JSi1gynR3MYhOplg9ZX/+n6V9kIJNhiyTDgh k8dA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=p/jDBIRU/O7xSXizD2yC0kUTrYJbIc2EB3/Zs74zEzA=; b=dbyW8XdF8TUBXf9FiyXqG4TgGgDpBNSPfIZObfrtMtPLsAw52GF3Gquok3rFWxHSX9 mo7I192nO3ruDS4Xr+xtHCJWOHw5RNWwV77rK/S3nu5fzhOsi0tXJIyb7PpextcA3YU1 4B9hRs0504QC/xhcRxzIbSy3bxpbznqxg9L8MATInSgyFXxykwhkxKP8AUPVzlsfmI7O nN/nP/YPGdIRpOsjvk/y+FOez1wttnK/bM7PkSjRlbsneceHMZeztQJQLgxmB5dB3U2o f4KeCToBNxpvV0empePrZeFq8j9bluqEJd/QB6Bnke3LPZwEqSgVGxNmPl3ntXHMD4vh wJXw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogKM7SRd57YdAXndkqiB0sOgWHJ14VM6FRQUkvKPy0rq+3ZxhsU yvw48WwlwrnYqKOsgvsLxz8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60bsTd7dyKC6ZyLidlBeur9JDhTg/W2iN68QNGb3Az381Gcu5RpXCn5kIjTV8chgGcO0BcSow== X-Received: by 2002:adf:fc0b:: with SMTP id i11-v6mr24383080wrr.9.1539161201037; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 01:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (168.50.187.35.bc.googleusercontent.com. [35.187.50.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r131-v6sm12740094wmb.32.2018.10.10.01.46.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 01:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: Derrick Stolee , Ananya Krishna Maram , christian.couder@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH][Outreachy] remove all the inclusions of git-compat-util.h in header files References: <20181008170505.GA13134@manohar-ssh> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:46:38 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:06:50 +0200 (DST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Johannes Schindelin writes: > Personally, I find the "whoever is picking it up should do the thinking" > much too harsh for a first-time contributor who specifically came through > the Outreachy program, i.e. expected to have a gentle introduction into > the project, and into the ways we work. Oh, absolutely I agree. Any random discussion participant can say "left over bits" in any random message with an idea that is left on the table. Looking for it may narrow the set messages to be examined, but the query result will inevitably be still full of chaff. It is not a very good match for "gentle introduction" material for GSoC/Outreachy microprojects. List of reasonable low-hanging fruits is hard to maintain, as the cost of building and maintaining such a list would easily outweigh the cost (and fun) of picking these low-hanging fruits yourself X-<. I do not think of a good solution to help newcomers offhand. Thanks, as always, for trying to be helpful to newcomers.