git@vger.kernel.org mailing list mirror (one of many)
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Resumable clone based on hybrid "smart" and "dumb" HTTP
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:07:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq37sxtcyk.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8DLYjXW1VBsxLYwcpjFV2s3MKqw9FL_2S7dMXpZigc2kA@mail.gmail.com> (Duy Nguyen's message of "Fri, 12 Feb 2016 06:53:42 +0700")

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ....
>>
>> I really like this design.  I'm tempted to implement it (since it
>> lacks a bunch of the downsides of clone.bundle).
>
> A bit disappointed we still do not address resumable fetch.

As you already said, the initial "clone" and subsequent incremental
"fetch" are orthogonal issues.

Because the proposed update to "clone" has much larger payoff than
the proposed change to "fetch", i.e.

 * The amount of data that gets transferred is much larger, hence
   the chance of network timing out in a poor network environment is
   much higher, need for resuming much larger.

 * Not only the approach makes "clone" resumable and helping
   clients, it helps the server offload bulk transfer out to CDN.

and it has much smaller damage to the existing code, i.e.

 * We do not have to pessimize the packing process, only to discard
   the bulk of bytes that were generated, like the proposed approach
   for "fetch".

 * The area new code is needed is well isolated and the switch to
   new protocol happens very early in the exchange without sharing
   code to existing codepath; these properties make it less risky to
   introduce regression.

it is simply a good taste to give "clone" higher priority between
the two.

So I do not think there is much reason to feel disappointed.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-13  5:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-10 18:59 RFC: Resumable clone based on hybrid "smart" and "dumb" HTTP Shawn Pearce
2016-02-10 20:11 ` Shawn Pearce
2016-02-10 20:23   ` Stefan Beller
2016-02-10 20:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-02-10 21:22       ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-02-10 22:03         ` Jeff King
2016-02-10 21:01     ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-02-10 21:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-02-11  3:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-02-11 18:04         ` Shawn Pearce
2016-02-11 23:53       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-02-13  5:07         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-02-10 21:49   ` Jeff King
2016-02-10 22:17     ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-02-10 23:03       ` Jeff King
2016-02-10 22:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-02-11 21:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-02-11 21:46       ` Jeff King
2016-02-13  1:40     ` Blake Burkhart
2016-02-13 17:00       ` Jeff King
2016-02-14  2:14     ` Shawn Pearce
2016-02-14 17:05       ` Jeff King
2016-02-14 17:56         ` Shawn Pearce
2016-02-16 18:34         ` Stefan Beller

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=xmqq37sxtcyk.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com \
    --to=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=jrnieder@gmail.com \
    --cc=pclouds@gmail.com \
    --cc=sbeller@google.com \
    --cc=spearce@spearce.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://80x24.org/mirrors/git.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).