From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Changing the default for "core.abbrev"?
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 20:46:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq37knwcf4.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy0_pwtFOYS1Tmnxipw9ZkRNCQHmoYyegO00pjMiZQfbg@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:39:35 -0700")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> I can just keep reminding kernel maintainers and developers to update
> their git config, but maybe it would be a good idea to just admit that
> the defaults picked in 2005 weren't necessarily the best ones
> possible, and those could be bumped up a bit?
>
> I think I mentioned this some time ago, and it's not a huge deal, but
> I thought I'd just mention it again because it came up again today for
> me..
I am not quite sure how good any new default would be, though. Just
like any timeout is not long enough for somebody, growing projects
will eventually hit whatever abbreviation length they start with.
Even if we bump it to 12 for everybody, majority of projects at
GitHub would probably be just wasting 5 more hexdigits in addition
to whatever they are already wasting. The kernel folks will keep
having the problem of having harder time looking up objects referred
to by ancient commits no matter what the new default is anyway, and
then they will again regret we didn't bump it to 16 in year 2016 in
several decades; by that time both of us are probably retired so it
may no longer be our problems, though ;-)
I am not opposed to bump the default to 12 or whatever, but I
suspect any lengthening today may need to be accompanied by a tool
support that finds the set of objects that are reachable from a
commit whose names begin with non-unique abbreviations that appear
in the commit log message. Assuming that it is very hard to refer to
future objects in the log message you write today, such a tool may
find a single object that used to be the unique instance of that
abbreviation back then, and with reachability bitmap support, it may
not be too expensive to run.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-26 3:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-26 1:39 Changing the default for "core.abbrev"? Linus Torvalds
2016-09-26 3:46 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-09-26 4:34 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 4:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 11:57 ` [PATCH 0/10] helping people resolve ambiguous sha1s Jeff King
2016-09-26 11:59 ` [PATCH 01/10] get_sha1: detect buggy calls with multiple disambiguators Jeff King
2016-09-26 16:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 17:21 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 17:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 11:59 ` [PATCH 02/10] get_sha1: avoid repeating ourselves via ONLY_TO_DIE Jeff King
2016-09-26 11:59 ` [PATCH 03/10] get_sha1: propagate flags to child functions Jeff King
2016-09-26 11:59 ` [PATCH 04/10] get_short_sha1: peel tags when looking for treeish Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:11 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 16:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 17:23 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] get_short_sha1: refactor init of disambiguation code Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] get_short_sha1: NUL-terminate hex prefix Jeff King
2016-09-26 17:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 17:25 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 17:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] get_short_sha1: mark ambiguity error for translation Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] sha1_array: let callbacks interrupt iteration Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] for_each_abbrev: drop duplicate objects Jeff King
2016-09-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] get_short_sha1: list ambiguous objects on error Jeff King
2016-09-26 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-27 5:42 ` Jacob Keller
2016-09-27 12:38 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 13:01 ` Kyle J. McKay
2016-09-29 13:24 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 14:36 ` Kyle J. McKay
2016-09-29 14:55 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 17:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-26 17:34 ` Jeff King
2016-09-26 17:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 11:46 ` Kyle J. McKay
2016-09-29 13:03 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 17:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 5:51 ` Jacob Keller
2019-02-04 16:12 ` [RFC/PATCH] core.abbrev doc: document and test the abbreviation length Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-04 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-04 20:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-04 21:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-04 23:32 ` Jeff King
2019-02-04 23:50 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-06 18:29 ` Jeff King
2019-02-06 18:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2016-09-26 6:33 ` Changing the default for "core.abbrev"? Matthieu Moy
2016-09-26 12:09 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 13:01 ` Kyle J. McKay
2016-09-26 7:13 ` Christian Couder
2016-09-28 23:30 ` [PATCH 0/4] raising core.abbrev default to 12 hexdigits Junio C Hamano
2016-09-28 23:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] config: allow customizing /etc/gitconfig location Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 9:53 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-09-29 17:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 17:45 ` Matthieu Moy
2016-09-28 23:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] t13xx: do not assume system config is empty Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 9:01 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 18:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 18:26 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 18:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 19:18 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 19:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 19:26 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 21:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 21:08 ` Jeff King
2016-09-28 23:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] worktree: honor configuration variables Junio C Hamano
2016-09-28 23:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] core.abbrev: raise the default abbreviation to 12 hexdigits Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 2:44 ` SZEDER Gábor
2016-09-29 5:27 ` Lukas Fleischer
2016-09-29 9:22 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 9:15 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 10:03 ` Matthieu Moy
2016-09-29 12:52 ` SZEDER Gábor
2016-09-29 5:58 ` Johannes Sixt
2016-09-29 18:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-29 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-29 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-29 19:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 0:56 ` Mike Hommey
2016-09-30 1:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 19:41 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2016-09-29 19:16 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-29 19:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-29 23:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 23:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 0:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 3:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 4:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 4:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 4:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 4:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 4:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 19:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 8:06 ` Jeff King
2016-09-30 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 18:05 ` Jeff King
2016-09-30 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-30 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 17:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-30 7:47 ` Jeff King
2016-09-29 9:25 ` Jeff King
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