From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
David Turner <David.Turner@twosigma.com>,
"git\@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>,
Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] http(s): automatically try NTLM authentication first
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:11:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1suo90za.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170222234246.wjp3567vesdusiaf@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:42:46 -0500")
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:34:19PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
>
>> Browsers usually disable this feature by default, as it basically will
>> attempt to authenticate to any site that sends a 401. For Kerberos
>> against a malicious site, the user will either not have a valid ticket
>> for that domain, or the user's Kerberos server will refuse to provide a
>> ticket to pass to the server, so there's no security risk involved.
>>
>> I'm unclear how SPNEGO works with NTLM, so I can't speak for the
>> security of it. From what I understand of NTLM and from RFC 4559, it
>> consists of a shared secret. I'm unsure what security measures are in
>> place to not send that to an untrusted server.
>>
>> As far as Kerberos, this is a desirable feature to have enabled, with
>> little downside. I just don't know about the security of the NTLM part,
>> and I don't think we should take this patch unless we're sure we know
>> the consequences of it.
>
> Hmm. That would be a problem with my proposed patch 2 then, too, if only
> because it turns the feature on by default in more places.
>
> If it _is_ dangerous to turn on all the time, I'd think we should
> consider warning people in the http.emptyauth documentation.
I presume that we have finished discussing the security
ramification, and if I am not mistaken the conclusion was that it
could leak information if we turned on emptyAuth unconditionally
when talking to a wrong server, and that the documentation needs an
update to recommend those who use emptyAuth because they want to
talk to Negotiate servers to use the http.<site>.emptyAuth form,
limited to such servers, not a more generic http.emptyAuth, to avoid
information leakage?
If that is the case, let's take your 1/2 in the near-by thread
without 2/2 (auto-enable emptyAuth) for now, as Dscho seems to have
a case that may be helped by it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-23 19:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-22 17:39 [PATCH] http(s): automatically try NTLM authentication first David Turner
2017-02-22 20:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-22 21:04 ` David Turner
2017-02-22 21:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-22 21:34 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 17:08 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-23 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-23 19:42 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 20:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-23 20:48 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 11:51 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-22 23:34 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-22 23:42 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 2:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-23 19:11 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-02-23 19:35 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 1:03 ` David Turner
2017-02-23 4:19 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-23 9:13 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2017-02-22 21:06 ` Jeff King
2017-02-22 21:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-22 21:35 ` Jeff King
2017-02-22 21:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-22 21:58 ` Jeff King
2017-02-22 22:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-22 23:33 ` Jeff King
2017-02-22 23:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] http: restrict auth methods to what the server advertises Jeff King
2017-02-22 23:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] http: add an "auto" mode for http.emptyauth Jeff King
2017-02-23 1:16 ` David Turner
2017-02-23 1:37 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 16:31 ` David Turner
2017-02-23 19:44 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 20:05 ` David Turner
2017-02-25 11:48 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-25 19:15 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 19:18 ` [PATCH] " Jeff King
2017-02-27 18:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-28 10:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
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