From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Makefile: micro-optimize light non-test builds
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 22:07:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1re6zzec.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YBDtO82x5sBAs/6L@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:34:03 -0500")
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:38:08PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> The steps 2/4 and 3/4 did look like a useful feature, but I wonder
>> why we even need to introduce NO_TEST_TOOLS in the first place.
>> Wouldn't it be more natural to arrange them to be built by making
>> "test::" target depend on them? IOW, why do we need to have "all::"
>> (our default) target depend on them?
>
> Hmm. That is definitely more logical, and giving "make" more information
> to make a good decision about what is needed. I do wonder if it would be
> annoying in two cases, though:
>
> - people trigger the tests in other ways besides "make test". For
> instance, "make && cd t && make" works, as does just
> "make && cd t && ./t1234". With a more clever Makefile, those would
> fail (or worse, run out-of-date versions of the helpers, producing
> confusing results).
>
> - during refactoring, I often compile-test as I go (i.e., run "make"
> to see which callers still need changed, then fix them, repeat).
> If that didn't catch test helpers, then I'd think I was done and get
> bit later by "make test" trying to build more code. Not the end of
> the world, but a minor annoyance.
>
> So I think even though I'd argue that giving "make" that extra
> dependency information is "more correct", we are fighting uphill against
> existing behavior, as well as things that make doesn't know (like that I
> expect to be ready to run tests as long as "make all" has finished).
Hmph, true, but as "make test" at the top-level merely redirects to
"make -C t", I imagined that the default target in the t/Makefile
would depend on doing "make -C .. test-programs" before running
tests.
The recursive dependencies end somewhere, though ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-27 6:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-26 16:07 [PATCH 0/4] Makefile: micro-optimize light non-test builds Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-26 16:07 ` [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: refactor assignment for subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-27 1:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 16:07 ` [PATCH 2/4] Makefile: refactor " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-26 16:07 ` [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: add a NO_TEST_TOOLS flag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-26 16:07 ` [PATCH 4/4] Makefile: add a NO_{INSTALL_,}SCRIPT_FALLBACKS target Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-26 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] Makefile: micro-optimize light non-test builds Jeff King
2021-01-27 1:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27 4:34 ` Jeff King
2021-01-27 6:07 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-01-28 18:23 ` [PATCH 0/6] Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git}-objs & objects targets Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-03 1:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 7:06 ` Jeff King
2021-02-04 17:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git,fuzz}-objs " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 17:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-23 18:31 ` Jeff King
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environment Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] Makefile: split up long OBJECTS line Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] Makefile: sort OBJECTS assignment for subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] Makefile: split OBJECTS into OBJECTS and GIT_OBJS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git,fuzz}-objs & objects targets Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] Makefile: build "$(FUZZ_OBJS)" in CI, not under "all" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-23 18:28 ` Jeff King
2021-02-23 19:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-28 20:13 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-01 9:39 ` Jeff King
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Makefile: remove "all" on "$(FUZZ_OBJS)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-04 6:51 ` Jeff King
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environment Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] Makefile: split up long OBJECTS line Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] Makefile: sort OBJECTS assignment for subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Makefile: split OBJECTS into OBJECTS and GIT_OBJS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git}-objs & objects targets Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 22:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-28 18:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] Makefile: remove "all" on "$(FUZZ_OBJS)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-28 18:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environment Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-29 7:49 ` Junio C Hamano
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